The second has what looks like a Triumph/ British stem (I think it measures about 1 1/8"). It's about 3" shorter than the springer above. I took it apart too and replaced the spring rods and some hardware, and cleaned it up as well. The chrome is in pretty good shape with some surface rust around the trees/ springs. It is missing the rockers, and there is some brazing on the bottom of 2 legs. This springer is also very narrow and looks like it might be made either by Wheel Specialties, or possibly Denvers/ Ness. It's hard to tell without the rockers but I have one very similar made by Wheel Specialties. Asking $225 plus shipping for this one.