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NEW BOOK BEING PUBLISHED ON MOTORCYCLE DRAG RACING.

I have been waiting a long time to make this announcement but I finally have permission to do so. John Stein, an avid motorcyclist and drag bike collector, has written without question the greatest book on American motorcycle drag racing ever. This has been a long time in the making for him. He has researched the very beginning and interviewed many of the early pioneers. I have been priviledged to view this remarkable book as it has progressed over the last several years. If you have been following this thread it is a "must have" book for you because much of the information in this thread is in it. John has promised he will join us and have information about the book. I am looking forward to him telling us stories about researching information for it.
 

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NEW BOOK BEING PUBLISHED ON MOTORCYCLE DRAG RACING.

I have been waiting a long time to make this announcement but I finally have permission to do so. John Stein, an avid motorcyclist and drag bike collector, has written without question the greatest book on American motorcycle drag racing ever. This has been a long time in the making for him. He has researched the very beginning and interviewed many of the early pioneers. I have been priviledged to view this remarkable book as it has progressed over the last several years. If you have been following this thread it is a "must have" book for you because much of the information in this thread is in it. John has promised he will join us and have information about the book. I am looking forward to him telling us stories about researching information for it.
Glad to hear that John will be contributing to the forum Frank. I am sure he will have quite a few tales to add to our knowledge of the racing characters in the past, which will complement those already imparted by the likes of yourself and Granddaddy Joe.

I would echo your comments about John's excellent book, which is a must have for all bike fans.
For more information, visit his website: http://gearheadpublishing.com/
 

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Yes, great book. Stein also has a good collection of drag bikes. Makes me feel that this is a good time to try and have vintage races. Alot more folks getting involved and working on there old machines. The M&H tire NVMDRA is selling has had a good response,France,England,New Zealand,Australia and of course the USA so far all with the intention to be run on bikes most of them old fuel bikes. cool, a running museum of sorts
 

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I just finished going through Drag Bike Racing in Britian by Keith Lee. All I can say is EXCELLENT! I have been around bikes all my life and I can't believe some of the engineering I see on these bikes. It makes me wonder what happened here in the US. Did the sanctioning bodies restrict a lot of experimentation?
Keith, I see many of the supercharged Triumphs had some sort of head supports. These are going from the top of the head to the block. Do you have any close up pics? I'm just curious of the set up.
Thanks for putting out such an excellent book.
 

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I just finished going through Drag Bike Racing in Britian by Keith Lee. All I can say is EXCELLENT! I have been around bikes all my life and I can't believe some of the engineering I see on these bikes. It makes me wonder what happened here in the US. Did the sanctioning bodies restrict a lot of experimentation?
Keith, I see many of the supercharged Triumphs had some sort of head supports. These are going from the top of the head to the block. Do you have any close up pics? I'm just curious of the set up.
Thanks for putting out such an excellent book.
Thanks for the kind comments about the book. It was a great time to be involved in racing back then. Although our capacity limits were often lower than that allowed in the US, car engines were permitted. Keep in mind that the average British car was of tiny capacity compared to your cars! There were some real innovators around, who were not afraid to push the boundaries - mainly because nobody knew what the limits were. Happily most lived to tell their tales, as there was not a single fatality for many years over here, apart from the sad death of Ian Aswell in the late sixties on a kilometre long sprint course at Brighton.

With regard to the head supports, they were a sort of belt and braces approach to try and keep all parts of the motor in the proper place. Crankcases had strengthening welded in to them, and the head was firmly locked down to it using a system of bolts and brackets. Sadly, nitro is unforgiving, and engines often did not last very long. Luckily the much favoured Triumph motor was cheap in those days. I will try and find a good close-up shot to post for you to see how it all worked.
 

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WOW Dean. That is the best 3 minutes of vintage drag racing I have seen. Perry & Scott in the opening, EJ Potter, The Barn Job, The Two Timer, Murray & Cook and others I bet Joe can identify.....not to mention the legendary cars. WOW!!!! You got to go to full screen on this one
 

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With regard to the head supports, they were a sort of belt and braces approach to try and keep all parts of the motor in the proper place. Crankcases had strengthening welded in to them, and the head was firmly locked down to it using a system of bolts and brackets. Sadly, nitro is unforgiving, and engines often did not last very long. Luckily the much favoured Triumph motor was cheap in those days. I will try and find a good close-up shot to post for you to see how it all worked.[/QUOTE]

My good friend Donny Covney is still trying to make a durable nitro triumph engine I have his billet pre unit cases and new cranks,and steel rods coming. A pattern for fuel cylinders in the works also as I cannot find Sonny Routts at the factory that he gave them too.
 

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WOW Dean. That is the best 3 minutes of vintage drag racing I have seen. Perry & Scott in the opening, EJ Potter, The Barn Job, The Two Timer, Murray & Cook and others I bet Joe can identify.....not to mention the legendary cars. WOW!!!! You got to go to full screen on this one
Frank the only one I could name other than the ones you spotted was me in the pit area with my Fuel Knucklehead and two runs on my Fuel Shovelhead...

Lion's always had a lot of bikes...cool Video...
 

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I thought the Knucklehead in the pits looked like your bike but didn't recognize you in any of the runs. But I guess that was before you started putting sponsor stickers on your bike.
 

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I thought the Knucklehead in the pits looked like your bike but didn't recognize you in any of the runs. But I guess that was before you started putting sponsor stickers on your bike.
Yes that's the Knucklehead, best time in 1968 was 158 MPH at 9.44 ET...

This is the other one of the Shovelhead taken from the Video, the frame I built with a Shovelhead in it and put the Knucklehead in it to race while I built the 102 Shovelhead, then just switched motors...my number at that time was 120 which you can see part of it on my back...


 

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Got to agree that was a great bit of film of some of the old guys.

Talking of films, I received my copy of the Hogslayer DVD yesterday, and very much enjoyed watching it last night. It is a very good piece of work, and well worth a viewing, or two. I've kept in touch with John Gregory over the years, and was always impressed with his work on the Norton.
 

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OK I'm going to bite the bullet here, it's not Vintage Fuel Drag Bikes but it's "The 2011 NHRA California Hot Rod Reunion at Formosa Raceway in Bakersfield...The track where the "Gas and Fuel Championships" were held in "The Day"...it's where I turned the "First Eight Second Run" on a Motorcycle...

Today is the Finals starting a 9AM, California time...Front Engine Dragsters, Funny Cars and the best of all the Fuel Altereds of the Seventies...


http://www.bangshift.com/blog/Stay-...California-Hot-Rod-Reunion-Starts-Friday.html
 

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OK I'm going to bite the bullet here, it's not Vintage Fuel Drag Bikes but it's "The 2011 NHRA California Hot Rod Reunion at Formosa Raceway in Bakersfield...The track where the "Gas and Fuel Championships" were held in "The Day"...it's where I turned the "First Eight Second Run" on a Motorcycle...

Today is the Finals starting a 9AM, California time...Front Engine Dragsters, Funny Cars and the best of all the Fuel Altereds of the Seventies...


http://www.bangshift.com/blog/Stay-...California-Hot-Rod-Reunion-Starts-Friday.html
Well I am watching Joe. I somehow think the track cannot look too much different from when you used to race there.
 

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Well I am watching Joe. I somehow think the track cannot look too much different from when you used to race there.
I watched Saturday and today, sure brought back some memories...The finals were really great...

Yea the track still looks short, I know when I ran the First Eight there, I went off the end in the dirt every run...and Boris Murray went off the end and went down on his Double and it took half an hour to find the bike because it buried itself in that soft dirt...the guy that found it did it by walking on top of it...It looks a little different than in 1971 but not much...

In the old days that used to be a giant patch of Asphalt and they dried grapes into raisin on it, when they build the drag strip I remember they use to be as many races off to the side on that giant patch of Asphalt as there was on the strip...the first starting line tower there was wooden box on top of two by four legs, sit just beside the start line where they had a Flag guy instead of a tree...and when the wind blew they had to stop because you couldn't see a thing because of the dust...

The first death they had there that I can remember is three teenagers sleeping in there car Saturday night waiting for the races on Sunday with a BBQ burning to keep warm, you know what that can do with the windows rolled up...and they didn't find them until Monday after everybody left...
 
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