Triumph Ignition questions

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one_bitter_dude

Discussion Starter · Nov 15, 2005

I am finally able to start puting my 500 unit together. The engine is from a 70 T100c and it is completely taken apart in my garage.

I know there are a lot of options for ignition systems (points/digital) and electrical systems(battery/cap). I looked around on google and I haven't found anything to valuable.

I really would like to know what my options are.

Since this is a complete and total rebuild, I really have the option to take any route I want.

I have accepted the fact that this bike is a money pit, and that the 20$ here and 100$ here will add up to be more than a new t100 would cost me.

So, does anyone have any information about the different options they could send me? or do you have any advice?

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GumbyChuck

· #2 · Nov 16, 2005

one_bitter_dude said:
I really would like to know what my options are.

So, does anyone have any information about the different options they could send me? or do you have any advice? <HR noShade SIZE=1>

Two basic avenues are keep it stock, with new components, or go for upgrades/non-stock parts.

Stock - points/condensers/coils for your ignition, and stator/rotor/zener/rectifier/battery for the charging side.

Upgrade - Boyer electronic ignition w/single coil for the spark side and Sparx uprated charging system, which is a stator/rotor and regulator/rectifier box. Oh and a little battery because the Boyer needs it. This cleans up the charging side considerably (fewer parts AND higher output). The ignition is fixed/doesn't have moving parts to wear out either.

The points argument is that you can always fix them on the side of the road with a hammer and baling wire. The counter to that argument is that you don't have to fix a Boyer.....

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Englishman

· #3 · Nov 16, 2005

GumbyChuck said:
Two basic avenues are keep it stock, with new components, or go for upgrades/non-stock parts.

Stock - points/condensers/coils for your ignition, and stator/rotor/zener/rectifier/battery for the charging side.

Upgrade - Boyer electronic ignition w/single coil for the spark side and Sparx uprated charging system, which is a stator/rotor and regulator/rectifier box. Oh and a little battery because the Boyer needs it. This cleans up the charging side considerably (fewer parts AND higher output). The ignition is fixed/doesn't have moving parts to wear out either.

The points argument is that you can always fix them on the side of the road with a hammer and baling wire. The counter to that argument is that you don't have to fix a Boyer.....

Are you saying that the Boyer units have never failed in service??

I still like the magneto option.

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GumbyChuck

· #4 · Nov 16, 2005

Englishman said:
Are you saying that the Boyer units have never failed in service??

I still like the magneto option.

Of course not. Anything can and will fail eventually; I've just had really good service out of the Boyers.

Magneto option - good point. Forgot that one.

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one_bitter_dude

Discussion Starter · #5 · Nov 16, 2005

Thanks, for the info.

So let's say I wanted to go the magneto route. What would I need to keep? What would I need to dump? What would I need to buy?

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blackbob

· #6 · Nov 16, 2005 (Edited)

one_bitter_dude said:
Thanks, for the info.

So let's say I wanted to go the magneto route. What would I need to keep? What would I need to dump? What would I need to buy?

i run a joe hunt mag on my bobber, never misses a beat, you can still keep the alternator and run a boyer black box for your lights doing away with the battery

found this http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/RARE-TRIUMPH-500-T100-UNIT-TWIN-ARD-MAGNETO-NICE_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQcategoryZ35617QQitemZ4589503081QQrdZ1QQsspagenameZWD2V

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one_bitter_dude

Discussion Starter · #7 · Nov 16, 2005

blackbob said:
i run a joe hunt mag on my bobber, never misses a beat, you can still keep the alternator and run a boyer black box for your lights doing away with the battery

So let me see if I understand this:

If I go the magneto route, I can get rid of the zener diode, rectifier, and coils. But I will need to keep the stator and rotor for the lights.

Then with a boyer black box (is this the same as a mitimax?) I can ditch the battery and if I want to upgrade the lighting, I will need to get something like a sparkx high output alternator.

or am I still lost?

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blackbob

· #8 · Nov 16, 2005

one_bitter_dude said:
So let me see if I understand this:

If I go the magneto route, I can get rid of the zener diode, rectifier, and coils. But I will need to keep the stator and rotor for the lights.

Then with a boyer black box (is this the same as a mitimax?) I can ditch the battery and if I want to upgrade the lighting, I will need to get something like a sparkx high output alternator.

or am I still lost?

if you go the mag route, you dont need ignition from the alternator.
if you want lights n stuff then you need a power source, so, keep the alternator but if you use a boyer powerbox (or similar) you can ditch the zener, battery and regulator.
make sense?

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gringo

· #9 · Nov 16, 2005

one_bitter_dude said:
So let me see if I understand this:

check this

http://www.jockeyjournal.com/forum/showthread.php?t=3&page=2&pp=10

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