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First off, if you don't like long posts please move on. You may have guessed this stuff is a little more than a hobby for me! If you want to read about the origins of a mostly unknown motorcycle read on...

I ain't soap boxing here, but I'd like to say after some pretty harsh treatment from me to do with the representation of credit for this bike in the media...I'd like to apologize to Lynn Ashcroft for losing my temper over this motorcycle. This is just to clear things up.

I've always had a lot of respect for Ashcroft Motorcycles and when I made the difficult decision to sell this bike un-finished, I only offered it to my closest friends and three shops. Lucky's Choppers, Billy Lane and Ashcroft.

I just recently was referred to his site update by a friend, and Lynn has made a fine gesture to clear things up. It's partly my fault for keeping my shop small (and not participating in the media very much) when facts or credit for my work gets mis-directed or overlooked. Still, there are quite a few of us out there who flourish on word of mouth promotion, and we need all the credit we deserve. Magazines are pretty bad at getting the facts straight, and it's put me in some hot water too. I've lost a couple good working relationships simply because my "Thanks To" list was edited or chucked for ad space.

As far as DNA...

* I've wanted to own a motor with Anders' brand new dual carb knuckleheads ever since they came out. FLATHEAD POWER IS THE SHIT. I love dual magnetos so it had to have a big S&S shovel lower end.

* I dig the industrial look of frame castings and old parts like springers. Weerd Bros. was a stateside source for the only frame right for the bike. It was a 230 rigid using all the castings and dimensions of a stock knuckle frame. It came from Sweden and I'm sorry for not remembering where. I want to say SJP.

* The 230 Avon just came out and big wheels look TOUGH. I bought the rim dis-assembled minus chrome from Billy Lane.

* The surface area of these wide rims, and Danny Franssen using coordinated color on his bike rear rims eventually led to the checkered flag rear wheel. I had my friend Flav (a math genius scientist) give me the checker size to match the diameter and keep two white checkers from ending up next to each other. I laced and trued it in the frame.

* The 8-Ball spool front wheel was a V-Twin part. I dis-assembled it and painted it like it is, making the "8" an oval so it looked faster.

* The bike was going to be straight black, with the 8 only on the left tank. For me that's where the "8-Ball" stuff would end. Ashcrofts painter wound up painting the tanks and rear fender.

*My usual stuff... Moon tank, drag bars, no front brake, minimal everything. During this I discovered you can grind the posts of a V-Twin springer top tree and (after cutting them in half) you can weld any handle bar to them! So drags can be super low on the forks.

* After rough mock-up and a couple loose sketches, the only other suggestions I made were stainless shotgun exhaust, almost no seat, and to mix up the textures of the chrome, raw/polished aluminum and cast iron. NO "blacking out".

I hung onto it for a couple years, tinkering when I had time (we never get to build our own stuff!). When ATF ran out of money (again) it was the first thing to go. I was glad Ashcroft wound up with it mainly because we were friends, he had respect for the project (no "faux" concrete splash graphix) and the resources to really do it right. This is where my involvement ends (in 2000 I think).

http://www.armageddontopfuel.com/extra pages/hellbilly.html

After that it was all Ashcroft Motorcycles. Thanks Lynn, you boys build a fine 'Sickle.

http://www.ashcroftmotorcycles.com/Features/Hellybilly/tabid/54/Default.aspx
 

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Thanks Conder.That Knuckle is HOT and Anders at Flathead Power does amazing work.Too bad the swedish website is no longer existing.That Knuckle engine is so cool...so is the whole bike.I'm just not into fat rubber.Please may somebody tell Lynn to reverse the second pic on his site.I wish I could hear that engine run...do you still know what cam is in there ?
 

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TheFrenZ said:
Thanks Conder.That Knuckle is HOT and Anders at Flathead Power does amazing work.Too bad the swedish website is no longer existing.That Knuckle engine is so cool...so is the whole bike.I'm just not into fat rubber.Please may somebody tell Lynn to reverse the second pic on his site.I wish I could hear that engine run...do you still know what cam is in there ?
I know it's a bit much for a message board, but I gotta do something 'til my new websites up! The cams an S&S 514 I think. It was '98 when I ordered the motor so my memory might be off. It's an S&S shortblock shovel kit. I had to order the FHP cylinders with a 3 5/8s bore and pull the shovel cylinders off.

I'm a perv for the big tires, I hear some euro guys are working on some 200-21s! I can't wait. If I just had the money for my own tire factory, foundry, machine shop, blah blah blah...
 

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oh kick ass, in the design sketch i see how you made the carbs give the image of the Moon Eyes... did you complete that effect? can't see the other side.


is there red paint on the inside like in the sketch or black and white eyeballs?
 

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Conder said:
I know it's a bit much for a message board, but I gotta do something 'til my new websites up !
This is NO ass-kissin' but I look forward to every post from you.It's always good reading and thanks for letting me know.Buying an S&S shortblock and go from there makes building an engine "easy" and the possibility of building whatever engine imaginable is pretty cool.Again,that Knuckle engine is hot.Dual mags are cool.Just check the ones on the Harman Early Shovel below.I must admit I didn't know of this set-up for generator-style bottom ends before I lately saw it on the DBBP page and that's where the pic is from...



I have a Leineweber L5 cam in my Pan.When I was asking for recommendations for cams some years ago I also talked to Dave Mackie.Beside every valuable technical info he gave me,he also said the L5 is one of the nastiest sounding cams he ever heard.That was all I needed to hear...

You said the frame came from Sweden but you do not longer know where exactly from.I bet it's an Edlund.They are building awesome frames.100% replicas of the originals.They are simply art...
 

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Thanks Snorton, in the drawing I just drew some red balls in the stacks, I didn't think of making the "Mooneyes". Neat idea though!

Thanks Frenz, I bought the frame from Weerd Bros who imported them from SJP (Denmark? Netherlands? Zimbabwe?) but that's where my trail ends. I hope Edlund built it! As far as that motor goes, I bought an assembled S&S 88" shortblock kit and told them my combination. They set up the 2 Super E carbs to run with this combo and I HAD to have 'em, but any engine guy will tell you 1 carb is plenty for a hot street motor. I always try to stick with one manufacturer for parts if I can. It keeps it simple for me and I've had good luck. So, Everything is S&S or Flathead Power. All pre-assembled by them. I think all Lynn had to do was sort out the external oiling, rig up some intakes and have custom pushrods made.

I'd give you the specs but all you have to do is ask FHP and S&S. They'll help you set everything up no sweat. I talked to the head guy at Morris Magneto back then, and he only has 12 sets of dual mag drives cast a year. I call 'em when I get stuck and they're always cool.

If I ever do this motor again I think I'd like to run dual AMALS. I heard they suck and I've heard they don't. I like the looks of 'em and 2 might work real good on a built street motor. I know lately I sound like some PR guy. I've never actually met most of these people and I don't get any "sweet hook-ups". There's a lot of crap out there so when I find good stuff I try to pass it on.

I'm out for a while after this weekend, I'm on another paint deadline.
 

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Conder said:
f I ever do this motor again I think I'd like to run dual AMALS...
Yeah,and while at it,put on a Speed-E-Shift as well...



The Speed-E-Shift was still available from a company here in Germany about ten years ago...I didn't know at that time but I better should have bought one.Just for the fun of it or is it rather pain...
 

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sebastian.kaiser said:
How exactly does it work? Clutch and Shift at once?

Frenz, where are you located?
Yes Frenz, W&W had them in their catalog some years ago, I heard that a Swedish company are still making them...can't find it at this moment...
 

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sebastian.kaiser said:
How exactly does it work? Clutch and Shift at once?

Frenz, where are you located?
Yes,clutch and shift at once.I'm located in the Ruhrgebiet.So you are from So-Bav,huh ?

And Danny,yes,W&W was selling them.
 

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For anybody interested,here's a close-up of the Speed-E-Shift...



Conder,I hope you don't mind I post this stuff to your thread.
 
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