Some call it brat style, or just anything that lowers the seat an inch or so. Keeping a similar to stock fender. I see it done on swingarm big twins but not really any XLs. Trying to get an idea of what I wanna do with my complete '74 XL, minus 1 frame....talk about keeping an asshole in suspense. Really trying to keep the tins matching because they are cool old and in really good shape+ I've got midget legs and need good footing AND ground clearance. Thanks for any assistance.