So the story goes that i got this springer for a song and a dance. I found a counte's customs take-off sugar bear springer. i bought it for the fact of wanting to blueprint a sugar bear springer (the last springer i needed to blueprint for my important springer blueprint collection). I bought it blueprinted it and sold it. a few weeks later the guy asked if i could buy it back as he lost his job. no problem to me. I then decided i would put it on a bike. it went on a 95 883 sporty that needs to be chopped. So here is the beginning stages of a sporty frame built to an existing frontend. I was not sure of what rake or up and out this frontend was built for so i had to mount a wheel and set the rocker bolts to 10-15 degrees off horizontal to get the stretches and rake set. i used a stock sporty wheel/tire(19 rim with a 100/90/19) rather than a 21 like sugar bear calls for. all that did was bring the overall up stretch down by 3/4". So right now the bike sets at 43-44 degrees rake and the top of the bottom tree is 36 3/8" off the ground. that is a 4 up off of softail standards. its about an 8 to 8.25 up on the sporty. I still need to figure out the out and the rear stretches. i think i am doing a 4" rear stretch and a 2 out front stretch. once all of that is figured out i will cut the frame for the hardtail and then do the backbone and upper wishbones to make a nice straight line to the axle blocks.