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yep, it's over. overblown, over-restricted, over-charged, overgrown. Thanks to all those folks that made it happen; man I had some good times there. But, like with all good things, it had to come to an end. And it has. I remember one time I described VLV to a friend as being " a little more like the world should be." Now, after reading Axle's list of rules & restrictions ($5 for car show admission and no glass bottles?), VLV is a little more like the world already is.
Well, my mom'll be happy...we'll be at easter dinner again! Cheers and thanks for the memories -- adios.
 

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Hold up... Your not going because you cant take glass bottles into the car show? I sorta see your point, it has gotten so big that they have to relocate the car show. Should they have? I'm not sure, I got to see all the primered cars I wanted. And it sure was fun wondering the parking lot looking for more cool stuff.

But it does remind me of an alternative sturgis. But thats okay, it will always be an annual trip for me an my wife. Last year was our first time there and we had a ball.

All I'm saying is don't give up on it just because you can't take glass bottles to the car show.
 

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The less people there the better. Thanks for not going.
gsglbc said:
yep, it's over. overblown, over-restricted, over-charged, overgrown. Thanks to all those folks that made it happen; man I had some good times there. But, like with all good things, it had to come to an end. And it has. I remember one time I described VLV to a friend as being " a little more like the world should be." Now, after reading Axle's list of rules & restrictions ($5 for car show admission and no glass bottles?), VLV is a little more like the world already is.
Well, my mom'll be happy...we'll be at easter dinner again! Cheers and thanks for the memories -- adios.
 

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sounds like a better deal.no broken glass to poke through tires,and no random people walkign around the show that shouldnt be there when the show isnt going on.i remember hearing last year a few cars got stolen?
 

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As you are aware, the Viva Las Vegas Car Show has become a massive success. So much so that we are amazed. 2005 had an unbelievable number of people. For everyones enjoyment of the show we have had to introduce a number of changes which we are sure the majority of you will be happy with. Here are the main points:

  • - The show will move to the ground floor lot behind the hotel and will be fenced in.

    - All cars must be pre-63.

    - All cars will need to be pre-registered. If you have booked a wristband for VLV9, registration will be free. Registration can be done at the time of booking your wristband. If you have already booked your wristband, no problem. Email us and we can add your car to the booking. Or go to https://vivalasvegas.net/intranet/booking_login.php

    - On March 12th, 2006, if there are any spaces left, people without wristbands can register cars at $20 per car, but this is subject to availability.

    - Anyone with a wristband will have access to the parking lot all weekend. Anyone without a wristband will only have access on the Saturday and that includes those who pre-register cars but do not have a wristband.

    - Pedestrians can pay to get into the car show on Saturday only for $5 between 9am and 4pm. This will include a voucher for a free drink at the bar in the car show or any of the bars in The Gold Coast. If you have a VLV wristband, that will get you into the car show for free.

    - No one can take in any glass bottles, glasses or containers.

    - People with VLV9 wristbands who have registered cars may park their cars from 6pm on the Thursday. Those without wristbands who have registered cars may park from 7am on the Saturday,.

    - Between 10am and 4pm on the Saturday, no cars may be moved.

    - No dogs are allowed.

    - Pre-63 motorcycles are allowed as long as they are in the style of a motorcycle from that era.

    - The car show is 9am to 4pm on the Saturday. Outside those hours no loitering will be permitted in the parking lot.
EVERYONE WITH A VLV9 WRISTBAND WHO ENTERS A CAR IN THE CAR SHOW WILL BE ENTERED INTO A DRAWING. THERE WILL BE THREE PRIZES, EACH OF $500 CASH DONATED BY THE GOLD COAST HOTEL.

THE GOLD COAST HOTEL AND/OR TOM INGRAMS ROCK'N'ROLL WEEKENDERS INC WILL NOT ACCEPT LIABILITY FOR CARS ENTERED IN THE CAR SHOW. OWNERS PARK IN THE CAR SHOW AT THEIR OWN RISK.
 

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God forbid a show you love has the same effect on others....

Have issues with your favorite show gettin "overblown" here's an idea:
Don't take pictures...
Don't tell friends about it...
Don't have a good time...

It should never change that way...
 

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No glass bottles at pileup... insurance is the factor.. i would assume thats the case with the shifter show.

Its ok.. i drink PBR out of a can most of the time anyway.
 

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magnet said:
No glass bottles at pileup... insurance is the factor.. i would assume thats the case with the shifter show.

Its ok.. i drink PBR out of a can most of the time anyway.
Or just cart around a keg. :)

Don't blame Axle and the guys, it was the assholes that didn't know a good thing when they had it, that necessitated the need for change. And blame everybody there that could have made a difference at the time, but didn't. Self police, so nobody else needs to.
 

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So let me get this straight... No containers allowed??!! So I couldn't even bring a bottle of water (or a flask of whiskey) into the show?? Did I read this right... That means no PBR cans either, I assume!?

"No one can take in any glass bottles, glasses or containers"

That's crazy, if I read that right! Tell me I didn't read that right, PLEASE!! So that would mean my days spending would be something like this...

$XX.XX for my chick to bring in the coupe
$XX.XX to ride in my Triumph (thank god it's under '63) so it doesn't get ripped off in the parking lot (those of you who live in Vegas know what I'm talking about)
$3 a beer at a minimum of 20 beers for the day (depending on what's being sold) = $60!!
$30 food minimum
Plus whatever it costs to register for a wrist band so I can see good music...

You do the math... this low budget, fun event just won't be the same. I understand their position, but DAMN! Looks like I may be just bringing a cooler in my other car and getting drunk in the parking lot and then stumble into the car show as a spectator for $5!

Don't mind me... I'm just a cheap skate when it comes to shows. Tired of paying $6 for a fucking hot dog and $3 for a small beer in a small plastic container...
 

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Here's a few pics I got from last year... I didn't get much for pics of bikes because I spent a great deal of time passing out flyers for DEC and then immediately got drunk... but I managed to get these when making trips to the truck for beer:



Are these pictures of anyone here??
 

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Not that i know wehat i am taliking about.. you should really check with the Shifters on this..

but "No one can take in any glass bottles, glasses or containers" ... I think they meant that they couldn't have glass bottles.. glass cups or containers made of glass.. things you have drinks in that are made from glass.
 

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Hmmm... that could be. Not very specific though. I know a lot of events here at Casinos don't allow ANY containers to come in so you HAVE to buy from their vendors. Usually part of the contract. I'm not sure if that's what they meant or not. I would think if you were driving in though, you could have a cooler full of canned goods... That's what we did at Rockabilly Rod Reunion this year. Otherwise they wouldn't let you in with anything.
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Not that i know wehat i am taliking about.. you should really check with the Shifters on this..

but "No one can take in any glass bottles, glasses or containers" ... I think they meant that they couldn't have glass bottles.. glass cups or containers made of glass.. things you have drinks in that are made from glass.
 

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The bitching comment wasnt directed towards anyway just my opinion
yeah, antibilly -

I don't like the rules and yeah, I ain't fucking going. I thought I made that pretty clear you fucking "love it or leave it" catchphrase lover.

And, my pal's dad (veteran hotrodder/biker), who I repeatedly mentioned VLV to as something he'd love, was one of the guys who got his rod broken into last year. Luckily, the thieves coundn't crack his fabu single toggle kill switch, and left it behind. That car has been his main squeeze for 20 years or more.

and another thing...the whole "no bikes; we're afraid of outlaws" BS last year was annoying enough. OK, my bikes only 30 years old, and I ride it every day and out to Vegas for a show, and that show says "63 or older." I can respect that (there's gotta be a cutoff date)...hell, I'm used to that! (Got a 76 Chevy also -- No love for the Seventies)....but the year before I was able to ride right up to my bro's car and park the bike. This was way cooler. Hell...I just rode in from LA, covered in bugs and dirt, 110 degrees, valves seizing open, and no one cared that my bike was from 1975. And the beer in glass bottles was GOOD and delicious. If I trailer-in a 62 HD this year they'll let me go up top. Which is radder to you?...some bike that never gets ridden but is of a correct year, or a daily rider just coming in from 300 miles of highway? I admit, I'm on a tangent. Sorry. I just love my motersickle, that's all.

believe me, I understand about organizing groups of drunken "counterculture peeps," and the inheirent risks involved. and yeah, there is a point where it's gonna get out of control due to too many assholes fucking it up, not interested in preserving the cool nature and hard work of the people who put the event on in the first place. This is a bad thing. This makes people worried and afraid of losing the cool thing they used to have. Making more rules is one way of making things more controllable. This way is also a quick fix that diminishes the original intention/direction/vibe of the initial idea. Therefore, the event ain't as cool or enjoyable as before the rules. Such is the case with VLV 9.

Hey, Tom Ingram is from the LBC. I even met him at the Foothill one time. Seemed like a right nice bloke to me. And he created something real cool, because he loved it and made it happen. I already said it was a fun thing. However, the fun is being sucked-out due to the over-regimented stance to next year's gig. Shit...if the casino venue is worried about security, move the car show to bubba's wrecking yard...enter at yer own risk, and give bubba $1 per person. But hey, america is accustomed to paying for it's R&R, so maybe $5 to stand in a parking lot of old cars may seem worth it to ya.

Anyway, antibilly, I don't wanna jump on ya so hard...I just got a valid reason to bitch. If people don't bitch, stupid shit goes-on being stupid. Take the gov't for example......
 

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yeah, antibilly -

I don't like the rules and yeah, I ain't fucking going. I thought I made that pretty clear you fucking "love it or leave it" catchphrase lover.

And, my pal's dad (veteran hotrodder/biker), who I repeatedly mentioned VLV to as something he'd love, was one of the guys who got his rod broken into last year. Luckily, the thieves coundn't crack his fabu single toggle kill switch, and left it behind. That car has been his main squeeze for 20 years or more.

and another thing...the whole "no bikes; we're afraid of outlaws" BS last year was annoying enough. OK, my bikes only 30 years old, and I ride it every day and out to Vegas for a show, and that show says "63 or older." I can respect that (there's gotta be a cutoff date)...hell, I'm used to that! (Got a 76 Chevy also -- No love for the Seventies)....but the year before I was able to ride right up to my bro's car and park the bike. This was way cooler. Hell...I just rode in from LA, covered in bugs and dirt, 110 degrees, valves seizing open, and no one cared that my bike was from 1975. And the beer in glass bottles was GOOD and delicious. If I trailer-in a 62 HD this year they'll let me go up top. Which is radder to you?...some bike that never gets ridden but is of a correct year, or a daily rider just coming in from 300 miles of highway? I admit, I'm on a tangent. Sorry. I just love my motersickle, that's all.

believe me, I understand about organizing groups of drunken "counterculture peeps," and the inheirent risks involved. and yeah, there is a point where it's gonna get out of control due to too many assholes fucking it up, not interested in preserving the cool nature and hard work of the people who put the event on in the first place. This is a bad thing. This makes people worried and afraid of losing the cool thing they used to have. Making more rules is one way of making things more controllable. This way is also a quick fix that diminishes the original intention/direction/vibe of the initial idea. Therefore, the event ain't as cool or enjoyable as before the rules. Such is the case with VLV 9.

Hey, Tom Ingram is from the LBC. I even met him at the Foothill one time. Seemed like a right nice bloke to me. And he created something real cool, because he loved it and made it happen. I already said it was a fun thing. However, the fun is being sucked-out due to the over-regimented stance to next year's gig. Shit...if the casino venue is worried about security, move the car show to bubba's wrecking yard...enter at yer own risk, and give bubba $1 per person. But hey, america is accustomed to paying for it's R&R, so maybe $5 to stand in a parking lot of old cars may seem worth it to ya.

Anyway, antibilly, I don't wanna jump on ya so hard...I just got a valid reason to bitch. If people don't bitch, stupid shit goes-on being stupid. Take the gov't for example......
I am amazed this dead horse hasnt been beaten to dog meal yet!?

Fact, teh car show that started as a SIDESHOW to the VLV weekender was just that A CARSHOW!

The facts have been stated here there and every forumn, fact is, a few dumbasses made teh show change. Get over it.
 

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gsglbc said:
Hey, Tom Ingram is from the LBC.

...I just got a valid reason to bitch. If people don't bitch, stupid shit goes-on being stupid. Take the gov't for example......
Tom Ingram is from England.

Bitching is for Bitches. If you don't like the way something is, Do Something About It. But, do you think you not going to VLV validates your "R.I.P." title or constitutes taking an action? No, it just means you're not going, and that you feel you now have the right to bitch.
 
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