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I'll take that Cali bashing ... Last in house job I had, out of 30 people 2 of us were born in the state ... The large percentage were from Ohio ... This state us to be cool .... I think it's them dam mid west values screwing up the place .... I'm blaming Ohio for this !!! ..... HA, HA ......

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I say we cut Cali OFF!!! thats right they are nothing but trouble and YES it all starts there. you west coast dudes have been bragging for ever about how it all started in cali....well now youve gone and done it....Lets get the jackhammers out and finally do what should have been done forever ago...CUT THEM OFF!!
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I'll take that Cali bashing ... Last in house job I had, out of 30 people 2 of us were born in the state ... The large percentage were from Ohio ... This state us to be cool .... I think it's them dam mid west values screwing up the place .... I'm blaming Ohio for this !!! ..... HA, HA ......
Tim, check out the "spool hub question" topic..from post # 7 to 16, there is something said about German and Belgian motorcycle laws..the Swedes got always pre 1970 or so paperwork on their choppers,then they are almost free as it comes to certain restrictions...But then again, if in some country's you have to show your bike at an inspection station on a yearly base..builders just take their second "stock" bike to show...got the point?..:rolleyes:
 

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Im sick of california anyways. Too many damn people, with too many stupid ones in the mix. Personally, I think the problem is all of the politicians making these moronic laws have lived sheltered and privileged lives. They have no concept of the way things work in the "real" world. thats my political statement for the month.
 

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i love how they are picking on bikes..what about kit cars?
Kit cars are gay anyway, who cares?

I'm with Scratch, I'm moving to Baja where more people speak English then they do here anyway and life is a little less restricted by uptight assholes trying to protect me from myself.

No one said being an outlaw was going to be easy.

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Hey just wait till the 2008 Harley's come out. Plan is no standard fasteners used on bikes. No hex heads, no allen heads, slotted, torx, nothing. Everything requires special Harley tools.
have you seen the new dynas? automatic primary chain tensioners with no inspection covers.just the derby.im sure they will do away with that soon
 

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It's a federal EPA thing, so every state is subject to the BS, not just California.


But let me also say, every time you bolt on aftermarket mufflers, change your carb for an S&S model, stick a big ass cam in to make it faster, you are already violating a half dozen EPA laws.

You will most likeley be able to buy certified EPA friendly engines from S&S, build the bike you wish, license it, then who's to stop you from putting drag pipes on and making it run super rich just because you can?

This law takes effect in two months, ask your local officials about what's going to happen, they won't have a clue, we know more than they do about this particular law.

I do worry that it will drive aftermarket frame builders for Triumphs and the like out of business.
 

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The only glimmer of light that I have found that a large distributor is going to sell there kit bikes with EPA legal motors, pipes, and turn signals...and the best part is they will come with a title instead of MSO's. Then you can build what you want out of it if you live in a state with no inspections. Still, triumph guys are gona be hurtin when it comes time to buy a frame, I guess it will be like it was decades ago where alot of guys rebuild frames that may or may not be safe...
 

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I will tell you what its like in London. Politics hardly exsist anymore, this city is run by big business and all they care about is squeezing every last penny out of you one way or another, man you can't even take a shit here without having to pay for it. I was pulled over by the old bill ( police ) last week 'cos the license plate on my bike was to small, what the fuck!, you can almost here the cash register chalking up another £60. And the traffic is shit and the whole city is full of single brain cell half dead car drivers who hate motorcylists. but you know what the worst thing is....I was thinking of moving to LA...Damn
 

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Does this mean I'm going to have a hard time titling my triumph? I have a 68-triumph frame with a 70 motor. I was planning to add a hardtail, may be a peanut tank mostly keep it stock. If the frame isn't good I was planning to get a custom frame.
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Sorry for asking I'm just lazy and don't feel like reading all the BS EPA laws.
 

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They did with Flattrack racing!!!! In the late 80's early 90's, the Hondas were killing them. Harley got themselves into it, and made "RULES" that once again put Honda's down, then Honda bailed and its dominated by Harleys again.

I can imagine whats really going on nowadays.....

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And people wonder why we say FTF.
 

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And people wonder why we say FTF.
i bet you thats part of it! HARLEY! they have money up the ass so they can do what they want. for instance, "work" with the government.
i can see nowadays with custom bikes and kit bikes etc, that harley's sales could be dropping. not many people are buying the bone-stock-everyone-has-harley. everyone wants a one-off custom. and for many, it's easier to open their pocket and buy a custom bike. rather then building one themselves, possibly from an off-the-shelf bike. so i think harley is at it again. instead of attacking the jap bike companys, (which they have done many times in the past), this time they're directly targeting us. so yes FTF.
 

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i bet you thats part of it! HARLEY! they have money up the ass so they can do what they want. for instance, "work" with the government.
i can see nowadays with custom bikes and kit bikes etc, that harley's sales could be dropping. not many people are buying the bone-stock-everyone-has-harley. everyone wants a one-off custom. and for many, it's easier to open their pocket and buy a custom bike. rather then building one themselves, possibly from an off-the-shelf bike. so i think harley is at it again. instead of attacking the jap bike companys, (which they have done many times in the past), this time they're directly targeting us. so yes FTF.
And now they have a "custom vehicle operations". AKA, more chrome, a few more HPs, bla wheels, and such for only $10,000 more.

Wow you too can have this for only $26,000. Where do I sign up? :confused:

 
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