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Lacing wheel question....

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I have read some info on here about my situation and left confused... ok so i have a drop center 18" alum shouldered sportster rim 43008-70 and am wanting to lace it to my star hub..I also bought custom chrome drop center spokes 08029...Does anyone know the pattern to which i need to lace it or is this even possible to lace up??? Need some help guys...Thanks
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Sportster rear hubs and star hubs lace exactly the same. That is why so many have early 16 rims laced on them. No big deal. No need to worry! And I have no idea what that spoke number is but you just needs stock replacement spokes like the originals on the Sportster wheel.
Robbie
That is not the correct spoke set for your application. Oddly enough, Custom Chrome doesn't list the correct set in either their '89 or '05 Catalog. The 08029 fits 19" drop center rims and 18" rims without a deep drop center. Buchanan sells the right ones in standard (KHD601SS) and heavy duty (KHD611SS) in stainless. V-Twin's part number, in chrome, is 45-0610, but the website shows them as back ordered. The Harley part number is 43031-70A. I'm not sure if that's for the set or the individual spoke, but maybe Drag or Chrome Specialties has a set that crosses over to that HD number.

That being said, when you do get the spokes, they'll lace in a cross 4 pattern. Loose lace the inside row of spokes on one side, then each outside spoke will cross over 4 inside spokes on it's way to the rim. When you turn the wheel over, I'm pretty sure the inside spokes will go the same direction as the inside spokes on the opposite side. If you put one through at the same angle as the others, and it doesn't line up comfortably to a spoke hole, try the other direction. Some years went one way, and some the other. Good luck with it.
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You may be aware of this already, but the tire bead profile on those rims isn't compatible with currently made tires. Just thought I'd mention it as it's been discussed here. Disregard if you already knew.

Bob
thanks bud!!!

That is not the correct spoke set for your application. Oddly enough, Custom Chrome doesn't list the correct set in either their '89 or '05 Catalog. The 08029 fits 19" drop center rims and 18" rims without a deep drop center. Buchanan sells the right ones in standard (KHD601SS) and heavy duty (KHD611SS) in stainless. V-Twin's part number, in chrome, is 45-0610, but the website shows them as back ordered. The Harley part number is 43031-70A. I'm not sure if that's for the set or the individual spoke, but maybe Drag or Chrome Specialties has a set that crosses over to that HD number.

That being said, when you do get the spokes, they'll lace in a cross 4 pattern. Loose lace the inside row of spokes on one side, then each outside spoke will cross over 4 inside spokes on it's way to the rim. When you turn the wheel over, I'm pretty sure the inside spokes will go the same direction as the inside spokes on the opposite side. If you put one through at the same angle as the others, and it doesn't line up comfortably to a spoke hole, try the other direction. Some years went one way, and some the other. Good luck with it.
bob so do i have to run nos tires to have that fit and what tires are runnable on that rim???
I think that rim profile was used from ~1969 to ~1979, so any NOS tire is going to have more age on it than what's probably reasonable to use. It was originally designed to be used with Goodyear tires and they've been out of the bike tire business awhile. Here's a thread on it:
http://www.jockeyjournal.com/forum/showthread.php?t=22085

Bob
bob so do i have to run nos tires to have that fit and what tires are runnable on that rim???
This is a fact, but also, let it be known that unless you are running a high HP motor, they will do just fine. The lip on the NOS tires, were more square, and new tires have a radius. They will bead up fine, and you will have no problems, unless you run a nitrous motor. There are thousands of those rims out there, and they all run late model tires. Personally, I have never seen one fail from unbeading. Mount it up and ride.
This is a fact, but also, let it be known that unless you are running a high HP motor, they will do just fine. The lip on the NOS tires, were more square, and new tires have a radius. They will bead up fine, and you will have no problems, unless you run a nitrous motor. There are thousands of those rims out there, and they all run late model tires. Personally, I have never seen one fail from unbeading. Mount it up and ride.
Absolutely right! I have run those rims on various bikes over the years and mounted tons of tires on them for myself and others with zero issues!
Robbie
sweeeeeeeeeet! thanks shovithead and rubone and bob for looking out for me...i have a old good year im using on my knuckle project for that rim...thanks for all the input guys help my curiosity!
Always use Spoke lube on the threads too(IMPORTANT).. Sorry if mentioned already but had to throw it out there anyways.
M.O ther....
what is the difference between those two spoke sets...the part number you told me and the part number i told you...the one i have is for a steel rim drop center and the other one is for aluminum???

That is not the correct spoke set for your application. Oddly enough, Custom Chrome doesn't list the correct set in either their '89 or '05 Catalog. The 08029 fits 19" drop center rims and 18" rims without a deep drop center. Buchanan sells the right ones in standard (KHD601SS) and heavy duty (KHD611SS) in stainless. V-Twin's part number, in chrome, is 45-0610, but the website shows them as back ordered. The Harley part number is 43031-70A. I'm not sure if that's for the set or the individual spoke, but maybe Drag or Chrome Specialties has a set that crosses over to that HD number.

That being said, when you do get the spokes, they'll lace in a cross 4 pattern. Loose lace the inside row of spokes on one side, then each outside spoke will cross over 4 inside spokes on it's way to the rim. When you turn the wheel over, I'm pretty sure the inside spokes will go the same direction as the inside spokes on the opposite side. If you put one through at the same angle as the others, and it doesn't line up comfortably to a spoke hole, try the other direction. Some years went one way, and some the other. Good luck with it.
When it comes to the time and effort to lace and learn the process I damn sure recommend good parts and components. When it comes to fitment questions and spokes, can't beat Buchanan's Spoke & Rim

Good folks over there.
While you spoke it up WORK LOOSE, make sure not to tighten up any sections too much until you already have the trueness set both radially and laterally, also start working in any offset as soon as you feel you can. Start with good parts, or you may never do it again, thinking its hard. Make sure to watch for valve stem placement (covered in most manuals) as a matter of fact, most manuals give you all the info you need to get it right.

But seriously work loose, let it come together as a wheel, not as little sections you have to correct in big changes.

craig
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