No. Very, vary, vary gay......chicoman7 said:Ok after 23 years of rigid frame bikes I wanna build a barkolounger, a cushy rear suspension lazy boy of a bike that I can haul the ol' lady around with on 1,000 mile rides. I wanna keep it non bagger like, yet old man retirement bike cushy. Anyone have pics of such creatures? I'd love to see them so I can get an Idea of what I want to build. Hell I might even go with a TC Evo. Yes I said EVO . Swing arm is sounding better then softtail to me right now.