Help Me ID THIS WHEEL
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now thats a interesting part you got there!!! Its got a clover leaf rotor 74 to 78, front sporty or super glide, an yet the disc rotor adapter is from a Morris mag wheel! an if i didnt know any better the wheel is bolted together ?? due to the different hardware that i see holding the center haves together,,, it might be a old dick allen wheel???
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I believe you're correct. Dick Allen wheel. Here's a 15 inch. They came in 16" as well.
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I don't think it's a Dick Allen wheel per se, I think it's a Cragar Quick Trick wheel somebody else did in the same style as one of Dick's wheels. Dick didn't make any 16" Quick Trick wheels (there weren't any 16" Quick Tricks), he made the 15" rears, and a few 17 x 2.5 fronts. Also, Cragar at the time advised that they were a "race only" wheel, and not recommended for street use, and they were tube-type wheels. They weren't sealed like the Centerlines were.
Dick used four H-D mid-star ball bearings in his hubs, the hubs were two piece - a pair of bearings in each wheel hub half. The wheel hub above is also done in two halves, but the bearing on the L/H side appears to be a tapered roller set up like an earlier FXWG hub with the snap retainer ring, inner cover disc, and small spacer that sits in the wheel seal would have been done. The sprocket is a Circle Ind., you can see the blue/silver sticker.
The bearing you see on the R/H side of the wheel isn't the wheel bearing, it's the sealed bearing that Grimeca used in the center of their rotor carriers for support. I'm pretty sure that's a Grimeca rotor on there, measure it, I'll bet it's 10 1/4" in diameter. Grimeca made a bunch of different style center carriers and rotors. Just about everybody who was doing the solid wheels, mag wheels, and the 12 spoke wheels - Dick Allen, Perf. Machine, Hall, Morris Ind., Cal Mag, etc all used the same components as far as rotors and sprockets go.
The allen bolts that hold the wheel halves together look to all be non original one's. You can still get the replacement OEM bolts/washers/nuts bagged up in a set - most of the time with the Crager installation sheet with the torque specs - on Ebay all the time for reasonable money.
So, the next thing you need to do is take the hub apart, and see exactly what you have in there as far as bearings goes. My guess is that it's somebody's copy of a DA wheel.
Dick used four H-D mid-star ball bearings in his hubs, the hubs were two piece - a pair of bearings in each wheel hub half. The wheel hub above is also done in two halves, but the bearing on the L/H side appears to be a tapered roller set up like an earlier FXWG hub with the snap retainer ring, inner cover disc, and small spacer that sits in the wheel seal would have been done. The sprocket is a Circle Ind., you can see the blue/silver sticker.
The bearing you see on the R/H side of the wheel isn't the wheel bearing, it's the sealed bearing that Grimeca used in the center of their rotor carriers for support. I'm pretty sure that's a Grimeca rotor on there, measure it, I'll bet it's 10 1/4" in diameter. Grimeca made a bunch of different style center carriers and rotors. Just about everybody who was doing the solid wheels, mag wheels, and the 12 spoke wheels - Dick Allen, Perf. Machine, Hall, Morris Ind., Cal Mag, etc all used the same components as far as rotors and sprockets go.
The allen bolts that hold the wheel halves together look to all be non original one's. You can still get the replacement OEM bolts/washers/nuts bagged up in a set - most of the time with the Crager installation sheet with the torque specs - on Ebay all the time for reasonable money.
So, the next thing you need to do is take the hub apart, and see exactly what you have in there as far as bearings goes. My guess is that it's somebody's copy of a DA wheel.
In the Rotor side , that is a standard 3/4 Wheel bearing part#9052 . The other side has the same thing . Do you know of anyone that was using this setup . And btw this is a 15'' Wheel if i didnt already specify that . Thanks in advance for anyhelp to id this .
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I love the Dick Allen ad copy:
"Your stock shit will bolt right up"
The old biker mags were awesome...
"Your stock shit will bolt right up"
The old biker mags were awesome...
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I'm pretty sure Harley made a 16" solid wheel with rivets, more like a Centerline than a Cragar. If it's 16", it's probably a Harley wheel. If it's 15", it's probably some sort of frontrunner style drag wheel.
Larry T
BTW, most of the folks that ran 15" wheels in the 70's ran car radials on them.
Larry T
BTW, most of the folks that ran 15" wheels in the 70's ran car radials on them.
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Yes, and they were also offered later on, on the back of Softail FXSTC's for awhile, and the same wheel was still available in the H-D P&A catalogs way into the late '90's. There are a lot of those spun 16" wheels out there.
http://irishrichcustomcycles.blogspot.com/2009/11/fxrdg-and-fxdg.html
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When you posted that press release, Danny, I remembered ADE. It was Bert Altmann, Syd Furman, and Howard Aronson. When they started ADE, the first product they made was the Star injector, based off of Mel Fenwick's original design of the Fenwick-Lake injector.
In the late 70's, Sifton somehow acquired ADE, and Sifton marketed all the Star wheels and brake calipers/rotors under the Sifton-Star brand, then just the Sifton name was put on the parts. The "Detail Freak" VL-framed bike featured twice in Easyriders had a Sifton-Star built Cragar Quick Trick wheel on the back the 2nd time around.
But, Star also used the bearings from the Harley mid-star hub in their Crager wheel hubs like Dick Allen used, but they used 3 bearings instead of 4. They didn't use tapered wheel bearings or sealed bearings. The below photo is the Advanced Design crew in '77.
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In the late 70's, Sifton somehow acquired ADE, and Sifton marketed all the Star wheels and brake calipers/rotors under the Sifton-Star brand, then just the Sifton name was put on the parts. The "Detail Freak" VL-framed bike featured twice in Easyriders had a Sifton-Star built Cragar Quick Trick wheel on the back the 2nd time around.
But, Star also used the bearings from the Harley mid-star hub in their Crager wheel hubs like Dick Allen used, but they used 3 bearings instead of 4. They didn't use tapered wheel bearings or sealed bearings. The below photo is the Advanced Design crew in '77.
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