As some of you know here my pan has always been pretty much bare bones including the seat which was just a metal pan. Not that the metal pan was bad, I thought I just needed a change and plus it seems that a decent Bates seat is worth a couple of ounces of gold so when I saw this at a local tractor swap meet I knew I wanted it. The guy was asking $15 dollars. I got him down to $12 dollars. A little bit of fabrication and it was all said and done. This seat is sure made well and I was surprised how heavy it was. Made in the good ole USA....