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This forum is supposed to be about bikes and that's how I prefer it. Sadly, I posted pics of some awesome bikes and the comments focus on whether or not the owner of the bikes is a D.B.

[/QUOTE]Well said sir,I thought it was cool that they have them on display for everyone to see.instead of squirreled away in a private garage.the vow engine is amazing looking
 

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Built by "Von Dutch" who sold her to Ed "Big Daddy Roth" and Eduard sold the XA-VW to .... which one of you knows the whole story?




Von Dutch`s creation

Okay ... after Eduard Roth, Randy Smith used to be the owner. And I really would like to know the whole story ...
 

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I got an Email from Mike Wolf of the Pickers back on 10/17 last year, telling me he owned the XAVW, and wanted to know the history and background details on it.

I told him in a return Email that I had too much info and background to write it all in an Email for him, and I gave him my number to call me. He never called me, never contacted me after that. Weird.

That's too bad, because I had info direct from Ed Roth, Randy Smith, Pat Leahy, and Hessian Little Joe on the history of the XAVW. I even knew who had it up until a few years ago. I asked Mike Wolf if he had bought it from that person who I knew owned it, but, like I said, he never contacted me again.
 

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Hey Rich,

great Info. I guess I still have an old chopper magazine with the Randy Smith story...
I was in contact with a group of American BMW-VW conversion guys for a story in German CUSTOMBIKE magazine. I think the Von Dutch bike was the start for all the Webley Vickers etc. conversions...
 

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i read somewhere that VON DUTCH built a bike outta an evinrude outboard engine! anybody gotta link to that pic?
i dont believe ANYTHING i see on tv anymore! its gotten so that the producers/production ass. have ruined everything with this need to "create" drama!
its sad that the only person on tv i`ll believe is the weatherman.....................
You have a bit of the story.....
According to what Randy Smith told me, Ed Roth swapped Von Dutch two antique outboard motors for the XAVW. When Roth got the XAVW from Dutch, the bike was totally disassembled, because Dutch got pissed that his horse wouldn't ride around in the sidecar that Dutch built out of the horse's watertroth for the XAVW, so Dutch got mad, and took the XAVW completely apart, and stacked it in a corner of his shop up in Calabasas.

Roth never put it back together, and traded it to Randy Smith for 15 sets of Randy's finned aluminum Pan covers. The sidehack Dutch made for the XAVW eventually wound up on his silver BMW, that Dutch rode most of the time to chase parts.
 

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Very interesting machine. To bad so many of those old machines have been destroyed. I have been by the shop in Iowa 4 times in the last 18 months and they are either taping a show and you can not get in to visit or they are closed. Must be my bad timing. Also have seen a couple of things they have picked that I would have like to have, but never find them up for sale. Guess I am not in the right web site.
 

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Trans adapter ,,looks like same set up as BMW
It is a BMW transmission. Some say Von Dutch did the adapter ring to mate it to the VW engine, but in an old Modern Cycle article on the XAVW, written by Dutch himself, he says that he designed the adapter ring, but someone else machined it for him, because he didn't have the machinery capable of making the actual adapter plate. My guess it was probably Boyd Defrance that machined the adapter ring, as that was one of Defrance Sr.'s specialties.

See this is the beauty in this bike - Dutch made this bike out of a 36 HP VW engine, a '42 XA shaft drive frame and rear wheel drive hub, a Moto Guzzi front end, Triumph rear fender and mufflers, a Honda 450 gas tank.....and the whole thing is pieced together from cast-off and war surplus parts that Dutch blended together to create a custom bike that is so stock looking, a person not in the know would think that it was a production motorcycle.

On building the XAVW, Dutch said: " I felt that the machine from all outward appearances, appear to be conventional, for I do not require the attention of juveniles, and quiet since I don't need the expensive attention of policemen".

Von Dutch was supposed to build another XA frame-based bike for Keenan Wynn, with a Porsche Spider engine, but it never got past the planning stage.
 

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Thanks for the great info Rich.

I agree that Kenneth Howard's talent is certainly on display with this bike. The bike is very subtle and everything just fits perfectly. The paint isn't over the top and looks just right. The bike is covered with probably hundreds of custom mods that all required time and talent to cast off parts. And when assembled, these cast off's look like a bike whose parts were manufactured to fit together. The bike is impressive. There is a lot of custom metal work to these parts, but if you don't know the parts, you wouldn't notice. Well done.

I'm very pleased to have seen the bike and am grateful that it's out and available for us to see.

Any idea on how well the bike actually ran? Did those Monoblocs flow enough fuel for the 'ol VW?

Keenan Wynn was a bike nut for sure. I love seeing his mug turn up in old bike photos and video footage.

Cory
 

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I got an Email from Mike Wolf of the Pickers back on 10/17 last year, telling me he owned the XAVW, and wanted to know the history and background details on it.

I told him in a return Email that I had too much info and background to write it all in an Email for him, and I gave him my number to call me. He never called me, never contacted me after that. Weird.

That's too bad, because I had info direct from Ed Roth, Randy Smith, Pat Leahy, and Hessian Little Joe on the history of the XAVW. I even knew who had it up until a few years ago. I asked Mike Wolf if he had bought it from that person who I knew owned it, but, like I said, he never contacted me again.
I would venture a guess that the history didn't matter...confirming it was "Dutch" made was more important so a dollar value could be placed on it.....reading what you wrote about it as well as what you know about it should be of tremendous worth to an appreciating owner of that bike....
 
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