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Ok...The tranny in my pan is DONE...completely shot...The cases were cracked by a prevous owner, mainshaft bearing is loose, Gear bushings are loose and the kicker doesn't engage properly anymore. I was hoping I would get it to limp me though until winter when I have time to rip it apart. Anyways...being that the cases are cracked and the general condition of the rest of the transmission. Here are my options.

1) buy aftermarket cases(millwakie Twins) & fill it with Andrews gears

2) Buy a baker 4 speed

3) Anyone have any better options?

I'm looking for the best product(s) for the job. I ride a lot of miles (the wife and I have one truck and I have the Bike) 60 miles a day to work and back. Plus all the other riding I do.

Money is NOT an object. I have been saving all summer to do this job (last year was the engine). so if you had a choice what would you do?
 

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Are you concerned with keeping the bike original in appearance?
Not really...the bike is a frankinstien, FXR front forks, custom triple trees, Sportie headlight , front disc brake, hydrulic back drum brake, 63 frame, 49 motor, Tranny(don't really know 48 - 62) open belt primary. 49 tanks, 49 rear fender, 49 seat.
 

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baker 4spd if u dont mind the look of the case and kicker cover
or stock case with andrews gears if u want it to look factory like
 

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The Baker 4 speeds are absolutely incredible. I use them on every build that I can. They are not cheap ($2700 retail), but they are head and shoulders better than anything else out there. Here's one on a current project:

 
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If you build one from the case up, it will still cost nearly as much as the Baker. Case, full set of gears, kicker assby, ratchet lid, bushing and seal kit, shifter forks and misc parts for them, mounting studs, kicker studs, all add up fast. There isn't too much to building one, but if money is no object, get the Baker.
 

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Everybody recommending Baker transmissions is really surprising to me.

Don't they cost somewhere around $2K - $3K?

Anyone really feel a trans is worth that much?

You can do a bulletproof rebuild of a stock four speed for pennies by comparison.

Different world, I guess.

Jason
Jason would be interested in your recommendations on Parts, keeping in mind the case is shot. I have no doubts about what you say, just curious. I guess I could ask the same question of Jesse. I have a Ratchet top with good cases and shafts I need to put together, so this info would be appreciated.
 

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TDWZ28 said:
If you build one from the case up, it will still cost nearly as much as the Baker. Case, full set of gears, kicker assby, ratchet lid, bushing and seal kit, shifter forks and misc parts for them, mounting studs, kicker studs, all add up fast. There isn't too much to building one, but if money is no object, get the Baker.
I hear you about the cost of building one up of entirely new parts, and agree.

However, in the original post I don't agree that the tranny is completely wasted. Sounds to me like the starter gears are worn and the case is cracked.

This does not mean the shafts are beat and all the gears are trash. Those oem HD gears are pretty damned tough and it's a longshot that they're beat and need a full set of Andrews replacements.

JIMS used to make a full rebuild kit that included bushings for the gears all seals and gaskets. It even had a shifter fork shaft and some other metal pieces. It was around $150. Surely someone still makes one of those.

To make a long story longer, if it were mine I'd take it all a part and inspect the bits to see what's really needed. If it's just gaskets/seals, shift forks, bearings and maybe a gear I think it'll be cheaper to build up from a new case with existing good parts. Done right, it's a perfectly reliable/quality alternative to spending $3K on a new tranny based on a suspicion that the old one is a totally useless wreck.

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Everybody recommending Baker transmissions is really surprising to me.

Don't they cost somewhere around $2K - $3K?

Anyone really feel a trans is worth that much?

You can do a bulletproof rebuild of a stock four speed for pennies by comparison.

Different world, I guess.

Jason
He did state that money was NO object.
 

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I have a Baker 4 speed, as a matter of fact I got one of the first ones (Teach did also)...build yourself a bulletproof one with a factory case.
 

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I agree with Jason about building a solid OE trans. I usually have about $400-500 into the whole thing with me doing the labor. You can get rebuilt ones all day for $1000 (i'd build two for that price, but...).
Just because money is no object doesn't mean you have to spend it. think about all the big, full dressers, with big dudes and stock trannies. They can hold up if you ride smart.
But baker is in the business and makes a living selling those new trannies...i could still build at least 6 stockers for the price of one new Baker though...
 

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I am a baker fan as well.
but there is another option if you are not concerned with originality. An evo softail transmission will fit in your frame. Primo makes the offset front sprocket mount to run an open belt and line it up with the longer shaft transmission

we put a 6 speed behind my dad's shovel, and it has been running like that for 8 years
 

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on a side note...I am slightly disillusioned with baker, every since I found out that their transmissions are assembeled in America. They contract the individual gears from the same Korean factory that makes Jim's and Ultima transmission gears
 
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