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Yeah, Headstrom Indian, wasnt a great idea as it would bounce yer ass off the seat........

Indian was first in rear swingarm Electric lights, Estart.........
 

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1913 was the year for Indian. M-G started production some 7 years later. In 1914 Indian produced their first electric start moto-cycle.

So, while Guzzi are fine motor bikes, they weren't first with the swinging arm.

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Well, you learn something new every day. Thanks!
Guess I was thinking about modern style suspension set up. And the linier devolopment of production bikes.The Italians came up with some neat ideas. The early Gileras had a hair pin sping. Weird.
 

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Ummm, that's NOT a hairpin spring, that's a friction shock absorber. The spring is contained in the upper rear frame member (capped with an aluminium tube) and pulled by a bell-crank attached to the swinging arm. There are, however, hairpin springs closing the valves on a lot of Italian bikes of this period.

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