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Old 01-20-2011, 04:46 AM   #1
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Old 01-20-2011, 05:29 AM   #2
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welcome hehoHo, there is a wealth of information on this site. On the "board" page there is "intro" section at the top, please do a intro, also there is a search function, this maybe difficult for you because of the language difference so i am sure most of us will understand and help you as much as we can but please try the search first.

Ok, now as far as the dropouts, we call them axle plates. I don't think there is a thread on them but if you look around at the different builds on here there is a bunch of different styles to look at.

Good luck on your build and if i can help please fell free to shoot me a pm, little d.
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Old 01-20-2011, 08:52 AM   #3
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Default Re: Drawing dropouts (help please)

you might search the terms 'axle carrier' as well
I took these pictures from raceframe engineering website in australia
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welcome hehoHo, there is a wealth of information on this site. On the "board" page there is "intro" section at the top, please do a intro, also there is a search function, this maybe difficult for you because of the language difference so i am sure most of us will understand and help you as much as we can but please try the search first.

Ok, now as far as the dropouts, we call them axle plates. I don't think there is a thread on them but if you look around at the different builds on here there is a bunch of different styles to look at.

Good luck on your build and if i can help please fell free to shoot me a pm, little d.
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Yes,difference in language is a problem.. But I'll try to find information.
Looking through the blogs, I saw a lot of pictures..
Found many interesting examples, but the pictures do not determine the size. Invent or calculate the size yet lack the experience and knowledge..


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you might search the terms 'axle carrier' as well
I took these pictures from raceframe engineering website in australia
Thank you. A more precise definition would help.
That is such axle carrier are quite complex.
I would like to make a simple triangular shape of the steel sheet.
For example:


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Old 01-20-2011, 12:18 PM   #5
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Cool bike you got there! And welcome!
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Old 01-20-2011, 01:22 PM   #7
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Default Re: Drawing "axle carrier/plates" (help please)

Those are photos of Hillbillyhells frame jig in his shop......

Unless someone has built an exact copy of Clay's shop....
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Old 01-20-2011, 01:24 PM   #8
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Hey I should imagine living in a village in Russia poses a few challenges as far as getting help or encouragement/inspiration - I can only imagine the job you face - but I am sure ppl will help from the ol' JJ online - there is two trains of thought with building (at least two..) either copy or maybe "use best practise" is a better term OR use your own artistic judgement and common sense: I think you can simply draw out the piece on card and cut it out - try it up and go from there - if you use a nice piece of mild steel - maybe 8mm thick, it'll be fine - the shape is really up to you!
Go for it - that's the fun of it. Keep us posted! Billy
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Old 01-20-2011, 01:28 PM   #9
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Found some pics on how I did it on my K-750 build.. I had the plates made from another guy cause I didnt have the tools to make them that good myself!





I just cut out a piece of the the tube big enough to fit the axlecarrier/plate and then completely welded it on both sides.. Not done yet but if you check in this link you can see how I hardtailed it! This is my first try too

https://www.jockeyjournal.com/forum/s...ad.php?t=69958

Edit: Added another picture, Im not sure if its in the buildthread

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Old 01-20-2011, 01:34 PM   #10
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damn)) first of all I took a look at the frame - cool man! then I saw an Izh below and thought something like: wtf? then I saw that the topic starter is from Russia)))

привет камрад! нормуль рама вьішла!)

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damnit... I thought that frame is your job.. i need to be more attentive)))
but don't worry man, here a lot of good people who will help you and could do your own frame well!
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>SwedeBobb
Looked your blog yesterday, cool. Ural is a power

>Billy Whiz
Not quite understood.. I want ready axle carrier , that would be o move on. Do not have the experience that would make every detail from scratch. And already want to start doing.

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Приятно увидеть тут собрата))
Рама пока не вышла, только самое начало ведь она стоке, вот ломаю голову как правильно сварить, решил что надо сначала иметь на руках дропауты боле менее подходящие и дальше уже начинать, а то так как никак надо же от чего стратовать, так сказать точка опоры))
Вот теперь в поисках чертежей/набросков с размерами чтоб придти к токарю. А дальше уже думать и пробовать гнуть трубы и все это дело скрестить)
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Looked your blog yesterday, cool. Ural is a power
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Do you need help on how to draw them? With measurements?
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these i have saved from sites on the web, chopper hand book is one. i dont know if these will help or not, D.


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Mmmm, second drawing interesting...

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Old 01-22-2011, 06:42 AM   #18
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Very nice IZ you got there my orthodox bro'...
I can not wait to see finished...!
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Old 01-24-2011, 12:42 AM   #20
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since you don't have a frame jig you can weld the hardtail bars to the swingarm axle plates then cut away the swingarm and extra frame pieces.
anybody got a pic of that they can post ?
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