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Old 03-11-2016, 04:46 PM   #1
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Picked this bike up today for a decent price. '70 BSA Lightning. Definately needs some TLC but should be a fun little project. I don't think it's been registered since 1978, and someone in it's past decided to paint the frame and side panels red, so I don't think I'll mind leaving the stock look behind. I'm thinking street tracker and scrambler elements, and leaving a lot of the patina. The bars are Wassel and in great shape as far as chrome goes but doesn't really fit the look I want. The Avon up front is pretty decent even, no dry rot, although it's a little hard. Seller threw in a pile of parts too.
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Not pictured is the box full of mufflers and exhaust pipes he gave me.
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Old 03-11-2016, 06:27 PM   #2
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Nice find! Looks like someone has been trying to give it an older look (except for the red frame). Should look nice with those tracker/ scrambler elements you mentioned. Just a suggestion if I may: try to resist the urge to do anything to it that would make it difficult to return to stock.
Keep us posted, I am excited to see what you come up with!
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Old 03-11-2016, 07:00 PM   #3
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Nice find! Looks like someone has been trying to give it an older look (except for the red frame). Should look nice with those tracker/ scrambler elements you mentioned. Just a suggestion if I may: try to resist the urge to do anything to it that would make it difficult to return to stock.
Keep us posted, I am excited to see what you come up with!

Thanks! I agree, anything done to it will be easily reversible to stock. My mind is all over the place trying to think of stuff to do with it! That's the best thing when you get a new project in my opinion, just checking stuff out and brain storming
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Old 03-11-2016, 07:39 PM   #4
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thumbs up to the street tracker idea.
not cheap, but easy enough to do w/o having to hack up the orig frame.
if i ever get my hands on another stock(unchopped/unfucked) trump, BSA, or ironhead id love to build a bike like that.
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Old 03-11-2016, 07:50 PM   #5
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Lots of potential there...the front and rear fenders, front wheel, tail light and bracket and fender brackets are all from a pre-unit A10, or a very early unit (1963 or 64) BSA. They are some desirable parts for the right person. I would strongly encourage you to use the 1970 TLS front brake in place of the early single leading unit which is on the bike. Good luck with your build.
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Old 03-11-2016, 09:41 PM   #6
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Looks great to me as it is. Love those Tanks.
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Old 03-12-2016, 04:33 AM   #7
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sweet find! Tracker would be nice with the frame red and all.
As mentioned good bit to sell off to finance new bits needed.

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Old 03-12-2016, 06:08 AM   #8
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Yeah, someone in the past made some effort to make it look like an older bike than it is. I tore the carbs apart last night and let them soak, they were really dirty. The guy barely got it started when I bought it, which helped me knock the price down a few hundred bucks I think. There was a leather bag in the box of parts he gave me filled with NOS Lucas points and bulbs which was kind of neat.
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I vote for stripped down stocker or some sort of tracker as well. Great find.
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after that possible rebuild, guys out there will look at the bike as a poor crappy little old bike; but now is in all it glory.
After a long learning curve, now I can understand that complete stock bikes look in the end, better.
If you have several bikes, choppering is ok.
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I vote for stripped down stocker or some sort of tracker as well. Great find.

That's what I'm leaning towards as well. The one thing throwing me off is how these BSA frames have the rear fender mounted to bridge the gap in the rear frame loop. I'm also tempted to just weld in a section to complete the loop.

There are some old BSA's and Triumphs in the movie Cycle Savages that I always liked. Some of them had tracker bars on them, with knobby-ish type tires, and still sprung rear ends.
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In the Mopar muscle car world there is a thing called "Day-2" where you imagine you bought the car new completely stock and on the second stay bought and fitted all the accessories for it.
I think this Lightning would be a great Day-2 bike. It already got the bars, maybe a Bates Cobra seat and Megaphone mufflers. A smaller Bates sidemount headlight tucked in by shortening the headlight ears and ditch the front fender. The rest restored as stock.
To me the BSA frame does not lent itself to a heavily stripped bike and bone stock they look really sharp except of course for the too long rear fender.
Heck I even like the stock BSA seat.
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Old 03-12-2016, 08:36 PM   #13
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In the Mopar muscle car world there is a thing called "Day-2" where you imagine you bought the car new completely stock and on the second stay bought and fitted all the accessories for it.
I think this Lightning would be a great Day-2 bike. It already got the bars, maybe a Bates Cobra seat and Megaphone mufflers. A smaller Bates sidemount headlight tucked in by shortening the headlight ears and ditch the front fender. The rest restored as stock.
To me the BSA frame does not lent itself to a heavily stripped bike and bone stock they look really sharp except of course for the too long rear fender.
Heck I even like the stock BSA seat.
Point well taken! I actually just got in from the garage putting the carbs back on and removing the front fender!

I'll post some more pics when I get a little bit further along. Thanks for the interest!
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Old 03-13-2016, 05:01 AM   #14
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The Hornet is a match for a t120tt looks wise any day, & the Triumph is one of the best looking Brit bikes, period.
Change of tank, fenders & pipes, lose the shiny from the front end & you're nearly there.

Sexy as hell:
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Old 03-13-2016, 07:05 AM   #15
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The Hornet is a match for a t120tt looks wise any day, & the Triumph is one of the best looking Brit bikes, period.
Change of tank, fenders & pipes, lose the shiny from the front end & you're nearly there.

Sexy as hell:
https://motorcyclephotooftheday.file...dd76190f_o.jpg
Nah, the tank is staying. I love the chrome tanks and big emblems too much to replace it with something else. That's a nice looking bike in the link, just too restored and clean looking for me and my wallet.
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A little more rough & ready then?

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That's really nice bike. Do you happen to know what rear tire that is?
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Dunlop Trials Universal? Where you buy them though, I don't know. Mitas & Heidenau do a nice 19" trials type front like that, but not a matching 18" rear. If anyone knows where to get those trials rears let us know, I've a mx rear on mine at the moment & to say it squirms a bit on the tarmac would be an understatement.
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With the current popularity of Dual Sport bikes there is a plethora of Trials Universal type tires available. From the Duro 307/308 to the Firestone ANS tires just check any large M/C tire store. Although none totally match the Trials universal tread pattern.
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Old 03-16-2016, 08:03 PM   #20
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With the current popularity of Dual Sport bikes there is a plethora of Trials Universal type tires available. From the Duro 307/308 to the Firestone ANS tires just check any large M/C tire store. Although none totally match the Trials universal tread pattern.
Good point! Pirelli and Michelin have a few nice tread designs similar to the Dunlop Trials pattern.

I checked the engine and frame codes (both match) and it turns out it's a 1969 model, not a '70.

Yesterday I got it fired up and it sounded good, no smoke. Clutch needs taken apart and inspected. It's always fun to crack open the primary cover on a new purchase. You never know what you're gonna find!
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