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58Panhead · 07-13-2015, 04:02 PM

I just recently bought a 1958 Panhead Engine and Frame... From what I can see there is a shitty repair on the case, I need to get the timing hole repaired and a crack on the cam cover not sure if it goes through.. I havent cracked open the cases yet. The heads look like they're in pretty good condition with no broken fins or cracks in the exhaust ports that I can see. I'm starting to think this was a pretty ballsy move for my first bike and first build. Thoughts?

little d · 07-13-2015, 07:19 PM

Ballsy is buying a used bike with out knowing what is going on on the inside, you on the other hand, if ya do it right, are going to have a bike you can pile a million trouble free miles on...

JAWS · 07-13-2015, 08:06 PM

Bawlsy... Yup. Gloriously bawlsy. Hell of a first bike story.

58Panhead · 07-13-2015, 08:07 PM

That's what I needed to hear rite now lol anyone know of any great welders around the NJ area??

panhead_pete · 07-13-2015, 08:40 PM

Great place to start, get ready to spend some $ but if its done right you'll end up with a good motor.

Hard to tell from your pics but whats the VIN pad like, is there a number on it? If so and it didnt come with a title maybe sort that part out before spending $ on the motor.

58Panhead · 07-13-2015, 08:46 PM

There is a number on it... I just blurred it

panhead_pete · 07-13-2015, 08:52 PM

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Originally Posted by 58Panhead

There is a number on it... I just blurred it

OK might be worth getting it checked, for some folks original VINs are a big thing, other's not so much, cops tend to take a dim view and plenty of horror stories out there about ceased bikes. Sorting out how you will get the bike registered after you built it is important to everyone though and apologies if you already know this pans are rego'd to the motor VIN, getting that sorted now if you need to would be the 1st $ I spent.

If its your 1st bike, go buy a cheap japanese trail bike, go find some land to ride on and learn how to ride for 6 months before going near a road. Advice I give to all my friends taking up riding. Once the pan is done sell the cheapie and go riding

58Panhead · 07-13-2015, 09:08 PM

I know the vin is only on the motor on it.. I also have the original frame... And front end... I would like to run the numbers...I'm looking to go with a 57 rigid frame.. How would it work if I buy a santee rigid frame with a mso?? Would I be able to title it from the frame?

HD48FL · 07-13-2015, 09:12 PM

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I know the vin is only on the motor on it. How would it work if I buy a santee rigid frame with a mso?? Would I be able to title it from the frame?

Yeah, it would become a special construction from the new frame numbers. Don't do that, use the title for the '58 motor and a non numbered frame.

HD48FL · 07-13-2015, 09:16 PM

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Originally Posted by 58Panhead

That's what I needed to hear rite now lol anyone know of any great welders around the NJ area??

Considering that it's a left case, send it to someone that has lots of experience, my vote would be Creekside Welding:

http://www.creeksidemc.com/left_menu.html

58Panhead · 07-13-2015, 09:21 PM

That's exactly who I was looking at already! I was looking at all they're repairs on the website and it looks like they do great work!

58Panhead · 07-13-2015, 09:40 PM

What's the best way to go about getting a title? My brothers father in law bought it as his first bike in the 70's..

HD48FL · 07-13-2015, 09:49 PM

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What's the best way to go about getting a title? My brothers father in law bought it as his first bike in the 70's..

Whoever sold it to you needs to sign over the title to you, then take that to the dmv and a title will be issued in your name. If the seller does. to have a title, then he needs to apply for a lost title.

JAWS · 07-13-2015, 09:57 PM

If its still titled to him in the DMV records, he can apply for a lost title. Then sign it over. Easy

JAWS · 07-13-2015, 09:57 PM

Jinx

You owe me a coke Andy!

HD48FL · 07-13-2015, 10:01 PM

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Jinx

You owe me a coke Andy!

Next time you're in Jersey or next time I'm in Maui!

58Panhead · 07-13-2015, 10:21 PM

It's not in his name... He bought it in the 70's without a title. I know this is going to be a serious headache but I'm trying to be optimistic about it lol

HD48FL · 07-13-2015, 10:26 PM

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It's not in his name... He bought it in the 70's without a title. I know this is going to be a serious headache but I'm trying to be optimistic about it lol

If it's not in his name, then he's not technically the owner. I'm at a loss on what to do.

panhead_pete · 07-13-2015, 10:37 PM

At least post a CLEAR pic of the VIN on here, you'll soon get a view if its been altered.

58Panhead · 07-13-2015, 10:50 PM

I know the vin is not altered... I blurred it out on purpose

07-13-2015, 04:02 PM	#1
58Panhead Member Join Date: Jun 2015 Location: Lakewood, New Jersey Posts: 31	1958 Panhead Build I just recently bought a 1958 Panhead Engine and Frame... From what I can see there is a shitty repair on the case, I need to get the timing hole repaired and a crack on the cam cover not sure if it goes through.. I havent cracked open the cases yet. The heads look like they're in pretty good condition with no broken fins or cracks in the exhaust ports that I can see. I'm starting to think this was a pretty ballsy move for my first bike and first build. Thoughts? Attached Thumbnails Last edited by 58Panhead; 07-13-2015 at 04:58 PM.

07-13-2015, 07:19 PM	#2
little d Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: midwest Posts: 2,905	Re: 1958 Panhead Build Ballsy is buying a used bike with out knowing what is going on on the inside, you on the other hand, if ya do it right, are going to have a bike you can pile a million trouble free miles on... __________________ "Apparently, any asshole can wrench on a newish, un-fuckered bike. Takes a goddamn genius to take this shit on."-Liam.

07-13-2015, 08:06 PM	#3
JAWS Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: la la land Posts: 8,512	Re: 1958 Panhead Build Bawlsy... Yup. Gloriously bawlsy. Hell of a first bike story. __________________ 60% of the time, it works every time...

07-13-2015, 08:07 PM	#4
58Panhead Member Join Date: Jun 2015 Location: Lakewood, New Jersey Posts: 31	Re: 1958 Panhead Build That's what I needed to hear rite now lol anyone know of any great welders around the NJ area??

07-13-2015, 08:40 PM	#5
panhead_pete Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Japanese Alps Posts: 2,641	Re: 1958 Panhead Build Great place to start, get ready to spend some $ but if its done right you'll end up with a good motor. Hard to tell from your pics but whats the VIN pad like, is there a number on it? If so and it didnt come with a title maybe sort that part out before spending $ on the motor. __________________ Looking for a pre 99 FXDWG in GC - $4K or less please Thanks Pete

07-13-2015, 08:46 PM	#6
58Panhead Member Join Date: Jun 2015 Location: Lakewood, New Jersey Posts: 31	Re: 1958 Panhead Build There is a number on it... I just blurred it

07-13-2015, 09:08 PM	#8
58Panhead Member Join Date: Jun 2015 Location: Lakewood, New Jersey Posts: 31	Re: 1958 Panhead Build I know the vin is only on the motor on it.. I also have the original frame... And front end... I would like to run the numbers...I'm looking to go with a 57 rigid frame.. How would it work if I buy a santee rigid frame with a mso?? Would I be able to title it from the frame?

07-13-2015, 09:21 PM	#11
58Panhead Member Join Date: Jun 2015 Location: Lakewood, New Jersey Posts: 31	Re: 1958 Panhead Build That's exactly who I was looking at already! I was looking at all they're repairs on the website and it looks like they do great work!

07-13-2015, 09:40 PM	#12
58Panhead Member Join Date: Jun 2015 Location: Lakewood, New Jersey Posts: 31	Re: 1958 Panhead Build What's the best way to go about getting a title? My brothers father in law bought it as his first bike in the 70's..

07-13-2015, 09:57 PM	#14
JAWS Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: la la land Posts: 8,512	Re: 1958 Panhead Build If its still titled to him in the DMV records, he can apply for a lost title. Then sign it over. Easy __________________ 60% of the time, it works every time...

07-13-2015, 09:57 PM	#15
JAWS Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: la la land Posts: 8,512	Re: 1958 Panhead Build Jinx You owe me a coke Andy! __________________ 60% of the time, it works every time...

07-13-2015, 10:21 PM	#17
58Panhead Member Join Date: Jun 2015 Location: Lakewood, New Jersey Posts: 31	Re: 1958 Panhead Build It's not in his name... He bought it in the 70's without a title. I know this is going to be a serious headache but I'm trying to be optimistic about it lol

07-13-2015, 10:37 PM	#19
panhead_pete Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Japanese Alps Posts: 2,641	Re: 1958 Panhead Build At least post a CLEAR pic of the VIN on here, you'll soon get a view if its been altered. __________________ Looking for a pre 99 FXDWG in GC - $4K or less please Thanks Pete

07-13-2015, 10:50 PM	#20
58Panhead Member Join Date: Jun 2015 Location: Lakewood, New Jersey Posts: 31	Re: 1958 Panhead Build I know the vin is not altered... I blurred it out on purpose

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