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Old 06-19-2015, 01:22 PM   #1
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Default What brake will work with my VL springer?

I am running a stock VL springer on my panhead, currently with a Jap front drum.

I want to change to a H-D drum brake but have no chance of finding a VL item.
Would anything else work (with modified axle)? WL? BT?

I want to run it with a star hub front wheel.

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Old 06-19-2015, 03:00 PM   #2
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I might be way off, but I thought the springer front stuff for all BT worked on the vl springer. As long as its a Star Hub, that is. Might take a different spacer n stuff. Strut arm might be different too.
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Old 06-19-2015, 03:13 PM   #3
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Is that a real VL or a W&W dutch/polish replica? Those use Big Twin rockers so everything is like a later spring fork.
Does your right rocker have the little dogleg where the axle goes through and the larger hole on the left?
And for another idea a german shop Kickstartworks put a Yamaha XT500 drum brake on a springer and called it "aggressive" when compared to stock.
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Wow...that Yamaha brake setup is pretty fuckin cool.

Guy...change nothing, man...that's tits. I guarantee it will stop better than any early Harley drum/brake setup you put on there.

And yes, Teddy's Taiwan repop springer brake drums/backing plate/brake shackle will work on VLs if the rockers are later era and you are using a star hub and correct axle/axle kit. Ejemplo:




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Guy,
As long as you are using big twin rockers (the ones with the dog-leg in the right side rocker) all of the axle, spacer, brake and star hub parts are a direct bolt-on. You'll need the correct brake stay too, so the grease fittings line up like they should.

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Love your signature George. That was the motto of a "Dance Club" in our town's red light district. Different spelling though
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Default Re: What brake will work with my VL springer?

To clarify: it is a genuine, bone stock VL fork, not a repop.

Will a BT front brake still work? What about the fact the VL springer is narrower than a BT springer?
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To clarify: it is a genuine, bone stock VL fork, not a repop.

Will a BT front brake still work? What about the fact the VL springer is narrower than a BT springer?
So's mine. It will work.
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So's mine. It will work.
Did you have to offset the front wheel? Doesn't the wider BT brake push the wheel off-centre in the fork?
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Did you have to offset the front wheel? Doesn't the wider BT brake push the wheel off-centre in the fork?
Yes. I can't recall what the hub/rim offset is, but I finish-trued the wheel in the fork to account for the offset. I can take a measurement of the hub/rim offset for you as rough idea. I believe I also had to shorten the right-side axle spacer on the lathe.

This wasn't a bolt-on deal, but it's pretty straightforward and will work just fine.

If you haven't already gotten a wheel, I'd recommend looking at the VCP sealed bearing star hub. Those hubs will accommodate the stock axle kit.
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Yes. I can't recall what the hub/rim offset is, but I finish-trued the wheel in the fork to account for the offset. I can take a measurement of the hub/rim offset for you as rough idea. I believe I also had to shorten the right-side axle spacer on the lathe.

This wasn't a bolt-on deal, but it's pretty straightforward and will work just fine.

If you haven't already gotten a wheel, I'd recommend looking at the VCP sealed bearing star hub. Those hubs will accommodate the stock axle kit.
Thanks for the info!

I have the wheel already...
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Thanks for the info!

I have the wheel already...
No problem...PM me if you need any additional info.
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Im trying to think of how to avoid the hub offset, would there be a real issue making a custom axle spacer for the star side of the hub and using washers between the brake drum and the hub? From what i see on mine, the VL is .5" more narrow than a knuckle springer. This would keep the backing plate tight to the rocker and allow me to kind of push the hub more towards the center. Any strong objection to this?
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I try to wrap my head around your question and I think you have not thought that through. If you use Big Twin rockers and your VL fork is .5" narrower than a Big Twin Springer the backing plate, drum and hub are already pushed off center towards the kickstart side of the motorcycle. You move the rim over to the primary side to center it. Then the spacer on the star (kickstart) side of the hub gets shortened and the step on the axle moved towards the kickstart side also.
second: NEVER,EVER PUT WASHERS IN BETWEEN THE DRUM AND THE HUB. I would not even trust a machined spacer in there....
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NEVER,EVER PUT WASHERS IN BETWEEN THE DRUM AND THE HUB. I would not even trust a machined spacer in there....
This is pretty much what i was curious about. I believe you are right now thinking about it again, the offset would be towards the kicker side. I was trying to work out the issue in my head while at work. In my head I was thinking that the drum was pulling it toward the primary side of the bike and i needed to space the star hub over, as well as cut the rest of the .5" off the spacer on the kicker side. I will mock it up again when I get home and reevaluate. Thanks!
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