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Old 01-28-2016, 04:40 AM   #1
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Just wrestled this off an old bloke who squeezed every last cent from me, but I won in the end, needs some work. Ha!

The frame number tells me its an Australian 1970 tr6p "Saint" which were the police bikes in Australia at the time.

The engine cases are empty. I have 80% of the gearbox, the head is complete, but no crank, pistons, clutch. Its basically a collection of parts - most of which need replacing. I noticed it has the triangle front engine mounts for easy engine removal, and slimline tank (that looks pretty buggered).

I need bottom end parts so if anyone has some T120 parts available and willing to send to Australia...

Glad i finally have a non-jap project to contribute.




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Good start. What's the plans for the build? What style are you going to build it?
I'm in Australia so I'll have a look in my boxes of left overs a let you know what I've got.
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Looks like alot more than a collection of parts.
Congrats!
Which direction are you going with it?

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You forgot to ask for my opinion, but that's all right. Keep the swingarm.

Nice bike. I believe SAINT stands for Stop Anything In No Time, or something, right?
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I am in Canberra ,go and see the Dunster Brothers in Mitchell (7 Huddart Ct )they specialise in old brit stuff. Also Go see Dougo at Chris Douglas MC in Carrington St Queanbeyan.And one more Dave "Numbers" who opperates TriCycle out of tuggeranong Transmission & Brake
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Thanks all -

@RidingHood - a few mates have suggested Dunsters to me so ill def do that. The PO suggested they may even have a built engine that I could buy which would speed things up in terms of getting the bike moving. At the very least they may be able to help me source some bottom end parts. Postage from the states is a killer.

In terms of look and direction - Ill get the engine 100% and the frame powdercoated then see where im at. The Saint bikes were black - but they also had a weird flat/notepad tank design that I am not particularly interest in recreating.

I'd prefer full dag. Definitely no hardtail. No desire for cafe racer or the like. but the shape of the current hangers are pretty neat. Dual carb, low pipes. black fenders maybe rather than chrome.

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Old 05-10-2016, 08:13 AM   #7
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Received the Aerco 750cc kit to replace the standard 650 barrels, very well made and keeps the same shape and external appearance as the stock barrels. Came with Hepolite pistons, rings, pins, gaskets.

Also bought a brand new set of Amal premier carbs to make my life easy (i hope). Just about to hit the button on a big order from the UK that includes seat, harness, gauges (in kph), handlebars, rear shocks, gaskets, brackets etc

@RidingHood The engine is down at Dunsters now - they are gathering bits for the bottom end, they have sorted me for crank, conrods and gearbox. Im stoked.

So im heading "bonneville with go fast-bits" rather than tr6p police replica.










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Not to hijack your thread but this is my 70 TR6P I built. It's matching numbers and I probably should have restored it but I cut everything off it I didn't need so it's gonna be a hard one to restore if someone wants to.
I actually drove to Canberra to get mine.
Nice build by the way. That's my plan for another build is to jam it full of go fast bits and build a cafe racer.
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Metaltriumph ,glad its coming together well .There should be a few bikes (triumphs) at this weekend WHEELS show (which may have a change of venue due to the rain).
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Its been a while, good to see you ate still at it makeing good progress.


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While I like the idea of a restored 1970 Bonneville the idea of a restored police bike with fairing and small seat intrigues me much more.
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Just wrestled this off an old bloke who squeezed every last cent from me, but I won in the end, needs some work. Ha!

The frame number tell me its an Australian 1970 Tr6p "Saint" which were the police bikes in Australia at the time. tr6-p for p-p-p-police!

The engine cases are empty. I have 80% of the gearbox, the head is complete, but no crank, pistons, clutch. Its basically a collection of parts - most of which need replacing. I noticed it has the triangle front engine mounts for easy engine removal, and slimline tank (that looks pretty buggered).

I need bottom end parts so if anyone has some T120 parts available and willing to send to Australia...
Nice score!
I've got a complete primary (brand new, UK made) clutch basket, new Reynolds primary chain, new clutch plates, both metal and fibre, new pressure plate, springs, etc. I just switched over to a Bob Newby belt drive. All the parts have less than 600 miles on them.
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Old 06-06-2016, 11:51 PM   #13
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Paint by Redback in Fyshwick, Canberra.









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Shit that looks nice. Good work
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Old 11-08-2016, 11:07 PM   #16
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feels like forever but some progress. Balanced crank installed and bottom end pinned together. Now to install the Aerco 750 cylinders pistons and cam gears.





I have also bought some new stainless steel rims and spokes from the UK, so i will get to work on blasting and painting the hubs.

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Old 04-07-2017, 10:28 PM   #19
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...hi,
can you tell a bit more about the paint? I mean, the scallop was done on the clear? then cleared again...
But the painter should scuffed it or sanded before isn t it?

Very nice quality by the way

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...hi,
can you tell a bit more about the paint? I mean, the scallop was done on the clear? then cleared again...
But the painter should scuffed it or sanded before isn t it?

Very nice quality by the way

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im sorry mate I dont have any specific details about how the scallop was done. Next time i catch up with the painter ill ask.
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Lurking around as these brits intrest me.
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looking real nice!!
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The weather was great in Canberra today, so to get rid of the baby blue side cover I thought today was a good day to do some painting.

I have been priming and filling for the last few weeks and was happy with the smooth finish of both the oil tank and the sidecover.

I did this by applying a few light coats first to promote adhesion, then just followed through with a coat every 20 minutes, 4 or 5 coats UPOL gloss black, then 5 coats UPOL clear coat.











these UPOL cans are $20 for gloss and clear and $33 for high build primer.

i used 2x cans primer, 2x cans gloss black and 2x cans clear.

All good except for one small dent to the clear coat that i made with my respirator mask when i was peering too close. Should buff out hopefully.

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Old 04-17-2017, 06:21 AM   #24
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looks as good as a gun finish, particularly avoiding any dry patches around the anti froth tower and fill; well done.
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i am at odds as to whether i should apply trophy stickers or bonneville stickers. or any stickers at all.

I like the idea of the original decals but im not too pedantic. The bike frame is a TR6p but the engine and colour combo is bonneville.


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Old 04-19-2017, 11:58 AM   #26
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...may be put only the "minimum oil level" sticker on the oil tank and the Triumph emblem in the gasoline tank with the chromed stripe in the middle and just that.
There are some models that say: "650"
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If it was mine I would probably put trophy stickers on one side and bonneville stickers on the other and don't tell anyone. Just wait and see who picks up on it then tell them the inside joke.
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I like the way you think KCgran. That's the sort of shit I like to do. Really pisses off some people.
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If it was mine I would probably put trophy stickers on one side and bonneville stickers on the other and don't tell anyone. Just wait and see who picks up on it then tell them the inside joke.
some of the old blokes i know would literally have a heart attack once they worked that out.

When i mentioned I was buying the oversized-fin exhaust clamps - old mate screwed up his face and told me he doesn't go for that hippy shit.
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just as well you are building your bike to please you and not "old mate" .
Your spray can paint turned out tops.
I recently finished a 40's push bike resto/upgrade for a bloke using that U-POL paint and it is super good ,esp that clear.
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Very cool project! Tank looks beautiful!
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the engine is almost done.

From the outside the engine looks factory, the fins of the 750 Aerco barrels extend a bit wider than the standard 650 but its pretty close.

Next is to polish up the clutch side cover and install the Boyer bransden electronic ignition.

then wheels and forks so i can get it all together. eventually.




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Greetings , Not to rain on your great looking paint work...You may wish to check the UPOL TDS sheet on the clear coat or call your paint supply rep, Here in the USA that clear has little or no UV protection in it and will fade to a chalk white with little exposure in the sun light , ...it is designed to be used on the under side o hoods and in door jams that receive little sunlight, best regards ,Mike
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Greetings , Not to rain on your great looking paint work...You may wish to check the UPOL TDS sheet on the clear coat or call your paint supply rep, Here in the USA that clear has little or no UV protection in it and will fade to a chalk white with little exposure in the sun light , ...it is designed to be used on the under side o hoods and in door jams that receive little sunlight, best regards ,Mike
I appreciate the info mate but I dunno if its going to be quite as dramatic as you describe. I agree that its not ideal and never going to be as good as a proper 2k spray gun job.

however this is from the product sheet -
"POWER CAN CLEAR COAT is a 1K, ready to use clear coat in an aerosol. It is used for finishing coated surfaces in order to achieve a high gloss, UV resistant, durable finish."

ill keep any eye on it.

with the progress so far i dunno whether this machine will ever get out in the sun anyhow!

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now with clear coat and instagram filters


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where did you get the U-POL product from?

Quality spray-can product is a bit 'Hit and Miss' I find.

Can't be a 'Supercheap' product surely?

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Paul ,here you go ,send them an email and they will tell you who is closest ,I got mine from the local spray paint suppliers who deal with the industry
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Looking good.
Is that bits of shaved oring on rear rocker shaft?
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Looking good.
Is that bits of shaved oring on rear rocker shaft?

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test fitting the fork legs and found that the new bushings are looser than what i expected.

one leg is ok - the bushing had to be heated to get on, unfortunately the other was too easy to pull off and on.

these are both new fork legs and new bushings...i hope once the fork lower is on that there isnt too much play



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Remember you will have oil in there,(taking up some play)
Put a quality hose clamp on them heat them up and tap on the clamp (Maybe some folded over fine emery paper between bush and clamp)
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Remember you will have oil in there,(taking up some play)
Put a quality hose clamp on them heat them up and tap on the clamp (Maybe some folded over fine emery paper between bush and clamp)


Hey Richbob - thanks for the reply. Can you explain what that will achieve? Are you thinking that will shrink the bushing closer the the fork leg?


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I thought you want to get it off ?
you edited your post since earlier (obviously I'm an idiot)




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Yeah sorry for the confusion, I believe these bushings are supposed to be a real close fit. The bottom bushing almost interference fit. So being on there tight is what you want.

Mine feel a bit too loose for my liking. Both top and bottom


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I used the ratchet strap trick so i didnt need to buy or build a fork puller tool.

Rather than building each leg off the bike, and pulling through the triple clamps with a threaded tool, this method involves installing the stanchions first then all the other parts after that. Then use a ratchet strap between the lower steering clamp and the front axle to compress everything up, then tighten the chrome seal holders. Worked like a charm.

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Thanks 1947Knuck

next step wheels. I painted the front hub VHT GM Rally silver wheel paint for the front and the rear with VHT high-temp caliper gloss black. Installed new bearings and got the chrome cover from a swap meet for $10.

I have new rims and spokes from Devon rim company so will start running the spokes on t he bench first, then move to the truing stand.






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So photobucket can get faarkedd

i have worked out how to get some pics displayed for free using google drive - i just need to go through each one and make them public in "sharing settings".

I uploaded all the pics of this project to my (free up to 15gb) google drive, right click image & generate shareable link, (go to advanced sharing and make sure "viewable to anyone on the web" is selected, copied link into browser, right click on image and "open image in new tab" - copied that longer link and added it to the thread posts.

Thats why the pic on the first page is now visible.

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Huh...have to give that a shot. Nice work by the way. I am enjoying the show. I know very little about brit bikes. thanks for sharing
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my other triumph. 06 Speed Triple 1050. I do like triumphs....

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mmmmm. I love this bike you are doing.
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Got the front wheel laced and laid the exhaust in place to see how it looks. Bloody beautiful as expected! I am glad I went for the non-balanced set, its a much cleaner look. Both the silencer and pipes are Wassell brand.

The rear was far harder to lace than the front. Mainly because I need to work out how measure the all important "offset" for the rear wheel. eg how much is it and where do i measure it from.This is a standard non-QD hub.







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nice to see a standard rebuild, agree with no balance pipe on the headers, an no real after market fitting glitches; does you credit.
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https://www.classicbritishspares.com...g-wheel-offset

Offset is in manual


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Thanks Richbob. You are right its there in plain sight. Although it wasnt until i read through the steps in that link that it made sense.
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looks sharp mang!
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Finally found some time to get both wheels trued up with correct offsets - as per the manual. I also managed to install new bearings, spacers, rim tape and Dunlop K81s.



Before installing on the bike - the next step is to rebuild and repaint the front brake assembly.
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I found that my front leading shoe brake plate had some shitty metal cancer around the outer rim. This was a bummer because it meant i couldn't polish the outer edge which is what its supposed to be.

So I just decided to fill in the majority with JB weld, smooth it out, and then paint the whole lot with VHT Wheel paint - "Chev Rally Silver" (same as the matching front hub i did a while back). Looks OK to me.





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Neat & tidy. I sure like the looks of those brakes; they work well too.
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Makes me feel good to look at these photos. Stock is very hard to improve on.
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...hey Ratso, is because is a Triumph, if you look at other brands is not the same.
Triumphs designers had the eye.
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Well, yes, stock Triumph is what I meant.
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...hey Ratso, is because is a Triumph, if you look at other brands is not the same.
Triumphs designers had the eye.
I agree 100% - this shape and style has charm.

Even if some parts aspects are a bit daggy - or downright unfashionable - i prefer to keep those parts intact.

I love custom bikes and choppers too but i think when restored in this way it keeps some charm.
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Makes me feel good to look at these photos. Stock is very hard to improve on.
the more i get into this build the more i agree! im glad i can bring some variation to this site - even though im sure 1 out of 10 million bonneville stock restorations...
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They're such sweet bikes, and so good for their time. I sympathize with the temptation to hardtail one, and have succumbed to that urge myself, but I'd never do it again. Well, maybe never.

I've had two or three relatively nice-looking examples, as well as plenty of which you'd have to say that handsome is as handsome does, but I never had a Triumph as outright purty as yours.
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still alot of work to do underneath that tank and those side covers but i couldnt resist a quick mock-up to keep me motivated...





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I tidied up the tail light assembly and fitted a non genuine lens that needed some trimming to get it to fit properly - however now it looks fine now.

I figured painting the tail piece black would look better in contrast to the stainless steel guards. Usually they are polished metal and look fine against painted mudguards - but not against stainless.

I used rustoleum gloss black and i am happy with the finish. Should be pretty durable aswell.










I also painted all the battery box parts and installed with rubber grommets.

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The taillight is an non genuine aftermarket
No, that is an original factory taillight assembly. However, it looks good the way you finished it off
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Installed oil lines. Bought a small pipe bender and made one 90 degree bend. Ha! but what a bend!



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Oh baby!!!
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got some front fender brackets at a swap meet for a steal - however they were chromes so i roughed-em up and painted black with rustoleum. If the paint doesn't last ill get them powder coated down the line. Same with the chrome grab rail.



also started connecting the wiring loom. It's easy when you have a brand new one!



i still have about $750 worth of parts to find

problem is I'm broke at the moment - so its a slow burn...
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so the fender is a few inches short at the front, but should be no probs to keep moving on. The rustoleum worked out a treat.



This is actually another grab rail - the previous one was sat too close to the seat for my liking - i reckon it was from a T140 or T150 or a later model. I got this one for $15 and painted it.

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I was uncertain about your black taillight, but it looks fine in situ. Such a kool bike.
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Still needs a battery and a few cables, but getting the old girl off bench is a satisfying experience. Preparing for the first kick-over...










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She is spectacular! Love the colors and the whole package. So sano. Cant wait for the startup report.
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It's real fine.

Are those stock(ish) bars? They look different from the ones supplied on US Triumphs. Wider.
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It's real fine.

Are those stock(ish) bars? They look different from the ones supplied on US Triumphs. Wider.


Yep stock US bars. The Brit and aus ones were narrower with less rise.

Even had holes pre drilled for horn button


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the black tail light and brackets look excellent - just enough for me - not over done - well done -I have a 70 650 tiger with not so great original spring gold paint that looks green to me - exact same tail light - now I think I may paint it and the front fender brackets black as you did
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Is that a reproduction seat ?


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ill be honest mate - almost everything on the bike is repro - did you see what i started with? ha!

this one is a Wassell. Same with the handlebars and rear guard.
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Repros are a little thicker than OEM. Probably nicer.
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...really nice year model.
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Paul & Peter Dunster helped me out alot with the tuning and overall build of this bike. These blokes know so much about old british bikes and cars.


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All finished, registered and 100 kilometres on trip meter now. cold & running on choke in this vid.

She rides like a dream.
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Very nice
looks brand new.
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Wow. Its perfect.
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DAMN that's beautiful. Sounds mightyfine as well.

At this point it's overwhelmingly unlikely that I'll ever have another Triumph. Glad I can at least see and hear yours, as a slobber enhancer.
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OK time to really get crazy. Contain yourselves....

Stickers (from Baxter Cycle)











and a few fancy shots from a mate before a ride we did a few weeks ago.



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Beautiful job!
I just sold my 71 Tiger 650, this makes me wish I hadn't.....
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