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Old 02-04-2008, 02:07 PM   #1
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like the title says, i am new. ive been lookin at this site for a while now i thought id join now that i have a project im workin on. im in the process of building a bobber. yeah i know, just another newbie. but i just want to ride a bike that i assembled. currently have a rolling chasis, 1976 shovel. lookin for a decent trans and once i have that ill start moving a little faster on the production. im hung up now on buyin parts because i cant find any information on what i need to do to get a title when im done. im not even sure if ill be able to title this thing with the used engine i have bought. if any one can lead me somewhere that i can get somesort of guidlines to go by for special construction title be my guest! thanks guys..

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Old 02-04-2008, 02:19 PM   #2
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special construction will depend on your state dude.
going thought it right now in NYS.
Basically, i can oly offer you up what i know here in NY:

You will need sales proof / ownership of MAJOR parts.
So make sure to have the MSO for your frame and anything you et for your engine and
trans. Then just aver all of your receipts.

You are going to hear all kinds of stories about special construction, so just make sure to have your ducks in a row and do your best with dealing with the state and the DMV.

I have the same frame. They are made real nice, Craftech right?

Hope some of my BS is a help and what you've got so far looks good.
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Old 02-04-2008, 02:23 PM   #3
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yeah krafttech frame, i have mso for the frame, i have a bill of sale for the engine but thats just a peice of paper sighned by me and the seller. i have receipts for everything that i have purchased for it. i guess worst case scenario is i sell the shovel when im done cleaning it all up and building it and buy a brand new evo or someshit which i do not want to do!
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Old 02-04-2008, 02:26 PM   #4
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In California we have to have the MSO for the motor, tranny frame. Like NewYorkAndy said, you're going to need receipts for the frame. Also, they base the cost of the title on how much you paid for the major parts of the bike -- motor, tranny, and frame. So, read into that as you will. You will need the VIN from the frame and the numbers off the motor. Sometimes they make you take it to the Highway Patrol for inspection. I had to once, the other time it was painless.
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Old 02-05-2008, 01:51 AM   #5
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hey what if i bought a new s$s case or something would that make er pass? id like to find a crashed bike or something and use that title somehow maybe i dont know.
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Old 02-05-2008, 02:41 AM   #6
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Yes, you would get a M.S.O. with the S&S cases and be better off with them, ....Roach.
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Old 02-05-2008, 04:15 AM   #7
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Hey man, welcome and good luck getting it on the road. Damn the man.
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Old 02-05-2008, 05:37 AM   #8
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Welcome Kevin!
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Old 02-05-2008, 08:51 AM   #9
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Hey jump thru all the hoops at dmy. Cause there is nothing like a bike built from scratch. As the old saying goes If you didnt build it it will always be soneone else bikel jus my 02
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thanks for the welcome guys and the info. yeah ill look into the s$s case. i think that will be the route i take just to be safe, id hate to spend ALL of my money and get no title. wheres a good place to buy the S$S cases?

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Old 02-05-2008, 11:53 AM   #11
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before i droped a ass load of cash on a set of cases, id run down to the hwypatrole with your #'s off of your engine. tell them what your doin n see if they are good. id say as long as it dont come up as "stolen" your all good. welcome and good luck, later little d
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Old 02-26-2008, 03:51 PM   #12
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okay - this is a thread hijack!

Any of you MN guys know of anyone using a 'distinctive title'?
http://www.dps.state.mn.us/dvs/Motor.../dvstitle.html
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regarding specially constructed vehicles (Reconstruction title in MN),
it looks like you need 'proof of ownership' as stated here:
http://www.dps.state.mn.us/dvs/Motor.../dvsrecon.html

more detail here:
http://www.dps.state.mn.us/dvs/Motor...n.html#Minimum
says you need 'Original Letterhead Receipt' for your tranny.

Lacking this documentation, the State may ask you for a surety bond (as mentioned on those pages).

I have found in MN YOU need to do the research - the license clerks don't know anything about special construction or any title that is not ordinary.
btw - Why don't you go directly to the St. Paul offices near the capital where you can get the straight scoop?
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dude, I'm in the same boat! I've got a 78 harley frame with numbers, 73 shovel bottom end with numbers. Both are clean. I'm not sure what the DMV in state is looking for. BTW Sweet bike!
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Old 03-05-2009, 03:36 PM   #14
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I'm sure if you let this post run or bump it you'll find more folk recommending you try the original engine no. first - unless you think it's suspect.. It's totally sad to spend $$$ on cases for no better reason. In England we do the thing you said quite often - buy an old frame for the number (read title..) here you don't need a title but you need a registration number - you can just gain a registration easier that way - transfer the numbers to your fresh bike.. called cloning! There's been a thread or three on your issue I think - some guys are real experts here on the board on this subject.. Good luck - nice start btw
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id like to find a crashed bike or something and use that title somehow maybe i dont know.
That'll get you in trouble!
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dude, I'm in the same boat! I've got a 78 harley frame with numbers, 73 shovel bottom end with numbers. Both are clean. I'm not sure what the DMV in state is looking for. BTW Sweet bike!
Your '78 frame is what should be titled. As far as the mismatch engine, check with your dmv. I don't think that'll be a problem, they may just want it on record?
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This original post is a year old......... there has probably been a 1000 of the same threads since then
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Old 03-05-2009, 06:08 PM   #18
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contact your DMV for specific details. Don't listen to other people from OTHER states. Some are an absolute bitch (NY I know cuase I sold TITLED bikes to people there that had to get NEW special construct titles). Do a little foot work but not on this site unless it's with dudes in your state.
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