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Old 10-24-2014, 03:17 PM   #241
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I saw the results last night on the SCTA site. Good run with the vintage bike. Hard luck on Keenan's record. He set some tough ones. What were you running for fuel? Going to give it another shot in Nov.?
November is our last chance this year for the fuel record so I will be there. I am running a methanol/nitromethane cocktail.
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Old 10-24-2014, 11:41 PM   #242
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Sort the mag and tip the can. And pray for some free El Mirage horsepower!!
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Bonneville record 500 SC/PF 117.186 mph
Bonneville record 500 SC/PBG 111.494 mph
Bonneville record 500 SC/PBF 112.717 mph
Bonneville record 650 SC/PF 128.703 mph
Bonneville record 650 SC/PG 121.553 mph
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Old 10-29-2014, 05:08 PM   #243
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Sort the mag and tip the can. And pray for some free El Mirage horsepower!!
Yes, there will be more Nitro. I fixed the mag gear and the fuel engine is ready for the last race of the season;

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Old 10-29-2014, 07:02 PM   #244
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100% ????
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Old 10-29-2014, 08:37 PM   #245
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100% ????
If all goes well on Saturday and if I don't blow it up I want to go above 90%. It is a two day meet and the last of the season anyway..
How is your knee? It would be nice to see you,, you brought me luck last time!
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Old 10-29-2014, 08:48 PM   #246
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The knee still stinks. But I'll be up there on Sat. Don't know if I'll run but I'll be there to cheer you on. You have a tough row to hoe. I'd love to see you do it!! Pray for a tailwind!!!
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Bonneville record 500 SC/PBG 111.494 mph
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Bonneville record 650 SC/PF 128.703 mph
Bonneville record 650 SC/PG 121.553 mph
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Old 10-30-2014, 01:15 AM   #248
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What's not to like about this thread? Alp builds fast engines. Does stunning work. No snarkbait here.
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Bonneville record 500 SC/PBG 111.494 mph
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Old 10-30-2014, 02:18 AM   #249
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Thanks! But where are the 500cc folks? btw I read in Vintage Bike mag that Martin Willmott builds a 500cc Triumph p/u salt flats racer for Bonneville Speedweek, One of my British buddies told me the same. We need more of this stuff.
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Ah,90 percent nitro....Boris Murray loved that!!!I think his 750 nitro Triumphs made about 90 HP. That engine above is the fuel engine...Small diameter pipes for a nitro burner..Or not...
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There 1 1/2" ?


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There 1 1/2" ?

Yes, usually nitro engine have larger diameter pipes. But it's not a given and Alp's engine may make more power with the 1-1/2's. Just wondering, you know, I might learn something....
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Old 10-30-2014, 11:35 AM   #253
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What size are standard Triumph pipes? The Weslake is 1 7/8".

That's a good question Alp. My 500 is out in the garage but its not a Triumph. The last 500 Triumph I can remember at El Mirage was Martin Doerfler's beauty. We ran for a long time on Keenan's record. Then gave up and went after the APS record. That 7 years ago. Fritz had a blown 500 Triumph. But again that was a good few years ago.

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Bonneville record 500 SC/PBG 111.494 mph
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I think the stock pipes were 1-3/4" in the early 50's, later they put smaller pipes.

Yes they are 1-1/2" , I made them free hand with a oxy-acetelene torch, one piece with a weld on mega. they work great with my cam timing on gas and 75% nitro.

If you look at the picture the straight portion is not very long.
I know top fuel engines have short big pipes without megas but right know i think this will do the job.
Next year I will try a larger one to see the difference.

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My Triumph's somewhat mild gas engine makes best power with 1-1/2 x 38 inch straight pipes.
Exhaust,intake and cam need to work together no matter what .
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thats a 650 motor with 38"?
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Yes, my LSR bike
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The Racing Season is over and we had a great final event and a successful 2014 season.
Yesterday we broke the 650cc APS-VG record with the M class stock frame. The little Trumpy went 130.734mph (0mph tail/headwind!)with no fairing at all on a 16 year old 128.747mph record. There are no more gas records left in the 650cc Pushrod and Vintage classes.

The Nitro engine bike did very well too, but had a little too much power for its own good and destroyed the clutch at 136mph while accelerating strong. We will take care of the 650cc Pushrod and Vintage class fuel records next year.

In the picture below is the modified gas bike that got the APS-VG record. APS stands for "Absurd & Poorly Streamlined"
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Old 11-11-2014, 04:41 AM   #260
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.So you gonna move to a different cc class?
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