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Old 06-12-2012, 10:22 PM   #201
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The sugar bear ones I have seen had very different rockers. Did he make different rockers? The other thing that looks different is the bar under the springs is square not round.

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Old 06-13-2012, 09:57 AM   #202
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Check his website, he still offers 4 types of rockers. Not sure how many he did back then, but I've seen this type. The bar is a little different but the style is the same.
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Old 06-13-2012, 09:14 PM   #203
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Here's a pic of an original Dick Allen springer, the design of which was taken over by Sugar Bear for his springers. Rockers are similar, but not quite the same as yours, and they had the round bar uder the top springs.



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Old 06-13-2012, 09:59 PM   #204
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They look allot alike but I do know it is not a Dick Allen as the original owner was an associate of his.It is also not a Fats front end which was another excellant South Bay springer from that era.I have looked at it some more today and the differences i see from others is the rockers only have 2 holes, the piece under the springs is square, the adjustment bolts for the springs have springs on them also.

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Old 06-13-2012, 11:29 PM   #205
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They look allot alike but I do know it is not a Dick Allen as the original owner was an associate of his.It is also not a Fats front end which was another excellant South Bay springer from that era.I have looked at it some more today and the differences i see from others is the rockers only have 2 holes, the piece under the springs is square and the legs are machined the same on both sides almost as if they could be used for either side.I do know it was put on the bike in 1963.Thank you for all the help.How about the ones that were made at Dicks place when he was not around for a bit.I cannot think of the guys name right know.
The Fats springers were no weld bolt together and did look a lot like the Dick Allen and Sugar Bear springers
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Sugar Bear changed the Dick Allen straight trees to V-Shape (boomerang) trees..
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Old 06-15-2012, 11:24 AM   #207
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The second one looks to be from a company called C.M.P but I'm not 100% sure


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Picked up a couple springers and I feel like I've seen them before but can't find them in this thread or any of my mags. The first one has distinctive trees, and large rockers.







The next looks like it is a Denvers because of the V trees, but the rockers look like some I've had on another springer in the past, and the nuts and square springs look like AEE.





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Old 06-16-2012, 02:44 AM   #208
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I was told this was an old Donnie Smith but not 100% sure. Let me know if you have any other thoughts on it please.





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Old 06-16-2012, 02:52 AM   #209
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^^ Yes it's a SB&F (Smith Bros & Fetrow)
A few months ago I scanned my SB&F catalog, here's the link, go to page 4.. as you can see on the chart left, you had many choices in rear and frontleg stock..and 3 different rocker choices..)

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Old 06-16-2012, 09:13 AM   #210
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The second one looks to be from a company called C.M.P but I'm not 100% sure
Thanks AppleKnocker. I thought the second was ID'd as an SIE? Still trying to figure out the first one. Pretty distinctive, I'm surprised it's being so difficult.
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Old 06-16-2012, 05:09 PM   #211
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Thanks Danny!!!!!! Now for the next part...whats it worth lol.
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Old 06-17-2012, 08:39 PM   #212
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i've looked a ton, but havent seen one like this. the top looks like a columbus to me, with the alum trees, and the shape. but the front legs are 6 sided, and the rockers are real weird with the axle clamps. any ideas anyone?
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^^ Rockers with those axle clamps are by Butts Mfg.
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Old 06-19-2012, 01:25 AM   #214
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Not sure its a Butts.
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Old 06-19-2012, 02:28 AM   #215
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Not sure its a Butts.
No, the springer itself doesn't look like a Butts at all, but that shape of the rockers and the weird axle clamps made me think of Butts..
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Old 06-27-2012, 08:04 PM   #216
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what do you think dna or paughco or ??
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Old 07-01-2012, 09:00 PM   #217
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Sorry about the crappy pics. Can anyone tell me who might of made this springer. Pretty sure it was from the late seventies.PhotobucketPhotobucketPhotobucketPhotobucketno markings or #s on it.
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Old 07-01-2012, 09:42 PM   #218
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That last one is Arlen Ness/Century. There are a couple different versions. The one I have is a low bend, has the wishbone bend in the front legs down by the tire, instead of just under the springs. Mine also has counter wound springs, one twists to the left and the other twists to the right. (I also think my springs were gold plated at one time, another one of Ness' options.) I think Century started making them and Ness started selling them, then later took over the manufacture. A new one sold for $399.95 in 1980, with an extra $75 to gold plate the springs.
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Old 07-01-2012, 10:14 PM   #219
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Thanks for the info. Do you know if there replacement rocker parts available?
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Old 07-06-2012, 02:24 PM   #220
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