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L.A.M.F. · 05-13-2016, 09:43 AM

Im about to make a tab for the juice drum anchor, i know it needs to be 5/8" and slotted for adjustment, but how much does it have to be slotted by? also when the wheel where its gotta be, should the anchor bolt be in the centre of the slotted hole?

M.O.Ther · 05-13-2016, 12:09 PM

When the wheel is at the center point of it's range of adjustment, the anchor bolt will be at it's lowest point in the slot. When the wheel is at the farthest points, front or back, the anchor bolt will be at it's highest point in the slot. At the center of adjustment, the bleeder port, the axle center, and the anchor bolt center should be in line in a vertical line.

VonWegener · 05-13-2016, 12:47 PM

What M.O.Ther said. Here is a pic of an excellent tab added to a reproduction axle plate.
Fab work by 47 Industries.

Blackbetty · 05-13-2016, 02:19 PM

That's the standard way of fabbing a mechanical axle plate to work well w the juice....you'll probably need to fab a spacer to fit between the anchor stud and backing plate.

selectedgrub · 05-13-2016, 06:10 PM

Nice work

selfmadehell · 10-12-2017, 03:52 AM

John at Hardtail Choppers is casting these weld on ready juice brake tabs for factory style Panhead and Knucklehead axle plates.

Stormin · 10-13-2017, 02:10 AM

Great info, I was wondering it that had been done. Nice to know that there is a tab available to retrofit to a juice brake.
Have to make a note of that.

shovithead · 10-13-2017, 07:05 AM

Maybe I am missing something here. But, a juice rear brake, has a single bolt anchor, and on all my round swingarms, it goes into a single round hole, and the assembly rotates as the adjustments are made. Now, on a manual rear, you have to have the slot, but in the forward position, so the brake can slide forward, or rearward, for chain adjustment. So, I must be low on coffee, or maybe my brain has finally quit working.

govmule84 · 10-13-2017, 08:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by shovithead

Maybe I am missing something here. But, a juice rear brake, has a single bolt anchor, and on all my round swingarms, it goes into a single round hole, and the assembly rotates as the adjustments are made. Now, on a manual rear, you have to have the slot, but in the forward position, so the brake can slide forward, or rearward, for chain adjustment. So, I must be low on coffee, or maybe my brain has finally quit working.

I was thinking this same thing. Can someone explain?

joe49 · 10-13-2017, 09:14 AM

Hole in swing arm is oversize of the anchor it doesn't just pivot has some up and down going on. Slot or oversize hole both work.

govmule84 · 10-13-2017, 11:20 AM

OK, oversize hole was what I thought. Got it.

rhysmort · 10-13-2017, 12:06 PM

The tab I welded is vertically oversized so it can move with chain adjustment within that. Had to fab mine on!

shovithead · 10-13-2017, 04:29 PM

I have several round swingarms. Two on bikes. None, have a slotted, or oversize hole. The hole is dead center of the adjustment slot for the axle. I actually went to the shop and looked at a 69 FLH I am working on. And it already had the rear wheel off the lift. The hole is slightly oversize to the stud in the backing plate. Maybe 1/16th, but probably less. Then, I looked at my spare swingarms. They all, have round holes, dead center, and when you adjust the chain, it goes from the front to the rear of the adjustment slot. Now, I am not saying I am right, and everybody else is wrong, but that all of mine, are like I described.

Just Passin' Thru... · 10-13-2017, 09:13 PM

For the visual this tab was put on my old paughco frame for the -58 juice...

Rem · 10-16-2017, 04:27 PM

This is the offending part on mine, definitely an oval hole:

DSCN5841s.JPG

05-13-2016, 09:43 AM	#1
L.A.M.F. Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Thunder Bay, Ontario Posts: 136	making a brake anchor tab for juice drum Im about to make a tab for the juice drum anchor, i know it needs to be 5/8" and slotted for adjustment, but how much does it have to be slotted by? also when the wheel where its gotta be, should the anchor bolt be in the centre of the slotted hole?

05-13-2016, 12:09 PM	#2
M.O.Ther Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Toledo, OH Posts: 2,138	Re: making a brake anchor tab for juice drum When the wheel is at the center point of it's range of adjustment, the anchor bolt will be at it's lowest point in the slot. When the wheel is at the farthest points, front or back, the anchor bolt will be at it's highest point in the slot. At the center of adjustment, the bleeder port, the axle center, and the anchor bolt center should be in line in a vertical line. __________________ In theory there is no difference between theory and practice. In practice there is. Yogi Berra Last edited by M.O.Ther; 05-13-2016 at 12:15 PM.

05-13-2016, 12:47 PM	#3
VonWegener Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Apple Valley Posts: 3,343	Re: making a brake anchor tab for juice drum What M.O.Ther said. Here is a pic of an excellent tab added to a reproduction axle plate. Fab work by 47 Industries. Attached Thumbnails __________________ * Your friendly neighborhood W&W Cycle Germany, Paughco and V-Twin dealer

05-13-2016, 02:19 PM	#4
Blackbetty Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: Dallas Posts: 195	Re: making a brake anchor tab for juice drum That's the standard way of fabbing a mechanical axle plate to work well w the juice....you'll probably need to fab a spacer to fit between the anchor stud and backing plate.

05-13-2016, 06:10 PM	#5
selectedgrub Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: New Zealand Posts: 1,026	Re: making a brake anchor tab for juice drum Nice work

10-12-2017, 03:52 AM	#6
selfmadehell Junior Member Join Date: Jan 2017 Location: Portland Posts: 3	John at Hardtail Choppers is casting these weld on ready juice brake tabs for factory style Panhead and Knucklehead axle plates. Attached Thumbnails

10-13-2017, 02:10 AM	#7
Stormin Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2017 Location: near Edmonton, AB Posts: 144	Re: making a brake anchor tab for juice drum Great info, I was wondering it that had been done. Nice to know that there is a tab available to retrofit to a juice brake. Have to make a note of that.

10-13-2017, 07:05 AM	#8
shovithead Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Cocoa Florida USA Posts: 2,485	Re: making a brake anchor tab for juice drum Maybe I am missing something here. But, a juice rear brake, has a single bolt anchor, and on all my round swingarms, it goes into a single round hole, and the assembly rotates as the adjustments are made. Now, on a manual rear, you have to have the slot, but in the forward position, so the brake can slide forward, or rearward, for chain adjustment. So, I must be low on coffee, or maybe my brain has finally quit working. __________________ Keep the old Iron on the road.... 42 UL long term project 44 Wife and best friend(Keeper for sure) 51 FLH short term project 60 Doc Dytch XLCH Drag only 61 XLCH parts bike 65 XLCH parts bike 66 FLH 68 XLCH parts bike 69 XLH wifies bike 69 XLH daily rider 70 XLH 72 XLH 72 C30 Chevy truck 73 FLH chopper(Shirley the Shovelhead) Daily rider

10-13-2017, 09:14 AM	#10
joe49 Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Tonica Il Posts: 2,170	Re: making a brake anchor tab for juice drum Hole in swing arm is oversize of the anchor it doesn't just pivot has some up and down going on. Slot or oversize hole both work.

10-13-2017, 11:20 AM	#11
govmule84 Forum Dipshit Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: Eastern PA Posts: 4,013	Re: making a brake anchor tab for juice drum OK, oversize hole was what I thought. Got it. __________________ "Polished chrome and shiny paint were our gods and we prayed at their altar. Patina does not mean neglect but the wear and tear from use and care." - VonWegener

10-13-2017, 12:06 PM	#12
rhysmort Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2016 Location: UK Posts: 1,653	Re: making a brake anchor tab for juice drum The tab I welded is vertically oversized so it can move with chain adjustment within that. Had to fab mine on!

10-13-2017, 04:29 PM	#13
shovithead Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Cocoa Florida USA Posts: 2,485	Re: making a brake anchor tab for juice drum I have several round swingarms. Two on bikes. None, have a slotted, or oversize hole. The hole is dead center of the adjustment slot for the axle. I actually went to the shop and looked at a 69 FLH I am working on. And it already had the rear wheel off the lift. The hole is slightly oversize to the stud in the backing plate. Maybe 1/16th, but probably less. Then, I looked at my spare swingarms. They all, have round holes, dead center, and when you adjust the chain, it goes from the front to the rear of the adjustment slot. Now, I am not saying I am right, and everybody else is wrong, but that all of mine, are like I described. __________________ Keep the old Iron on the road.... 42 UL long term project 44 Wife and best friend(Keeper for sure) 51 FLH short term project 60 Doc Dytch XLCH Drag only 61 XLCH parts bike 65 XLCH parts bike 66 FLH 68 XLCH parts bike 69 XLH wifies bike 69 XLH daily rider 70 XLH 72 XLH 72 C30 Chevy truck 73 FLH chopper(Shirley the Shovelhead) Daily rider

10-13-2017, 09:13 PM	#14
Just Passin' Thru... Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: MD Posts: 1,250	Re: making a brake anchor tab for juice drum For the visual this tab was put on my old paughco frame for the -58 juice...

10-16-2017, 04:27 PM	#15
Rem Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2013 Location: Oxford, UK Posts: 505	Re: making a brake anchor tab for juice drum This is the offending part on mine, definitely an oval hole: DSCN5841s.JPG Attached Thumbnails

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