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Old 01-27-2013, 04:57 PM   #1
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I didn't mean to dis Cone motor Owners, back in 1970 when the New Cone motored Shovels came out, I was working at Pucketts Custom/Harely Shop in Orlando Fl. I can remember several old time customers saying "I ain't gona buy one of them New Fangled Bikes." In the early 70's I was manageing BJ's Harley/Moto Guzzi shop (The Cop Shop) we leased repop Cop bikes to the movie studios. I had a 1970 pearl white and chrome cone shovel shop bike that was mine as long as I ran the shop. I rode it for 4 years. So I've got No problem with Cone Shovels, Just cracking a geezer joke. My stroker from Pucketts days and Cop bike from BJ's.
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Old 01-27-2013, 05:00 PM   #2
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First part arived!!
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Old 01-27-2013, 08:11 PM   #5
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I remember Puckett or Puckett's on Orange Blossom Trail....man that was a while ago! I wore my ol' man's Puckett's t-shirt to school once and he flipped out because the place had closed and he apparently loved the place. I think he bought his (later to be mine) '74 Sportster from there in the late '70's too. You have any pics of the place? I can visualize it but no pics on the web I can find. Anyway, thanks for jogging my memory



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I didn't mean to dis Cone motor Owners, back in 1970 when the New Cone motored Shovels came out, I was working at Pucketts Custom/Harely Shop in Orlando Fl. I can remember several old time customers saying "I ain't gona buy one of them New Fangled Bikes." In the early 70's I was manageing BJ's Harley/Moto Guzzi shop (The Cop Shop) we leased repop Cop bikes to the movie studios. I had a 1970 pearl white and chrome cone shovel shop bike that was mine as long as I ran the shop. I rode it for 4 years. So I've got No problem with Cone Shovels, Just cracking a geezer joke. My stroker from Pucketts days and Cop bike from BJ's.
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Old 01-28-2013, 12:32 AM   #6
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Only found a old pic from the 50's in an article about Big Bertha, a drag bike from the 50's to early 60's. Pucketts was just a big white block building with the shop name on the front and a big fenced lot on the south side of the building. This is the only pic that I still have. Looks like a top end job on a sporty.
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Old 02-01-2013, 04:26 PM   #7
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Ok parts started showing up. I bought a set Ultima 74" engine cases and they came in today. I wetn this route to have a MSO come registration time as Bill of Sales on capital parts (engine/frames) cause problems in Wa. Iv'e seen a lot of back and forth about import cases, heads ect, but since most everything is imported and cnc machines don't know where they are, I don't see this as a problem like it was years ago. There cast from good aloy, the castings look good, no rough areas, all inserts look nice and well installed, machining looks good and included hardware looks good too. It's going to be a stock build, so it oufht to hold up just fine, time will tell. Got to go to work, more later.
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Old 02-03-2013, 04:11 PM   #8
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Starting to gather parts. It's gona be a fairly stock 74, maybe a little cam but as a primarly Kick Start bike, it won't be any 96 or 113 inch motor. Heck back in the mid 70's at Pucketts we had three drag bikes, a 96" gas P/S, a 106" sporty T/F and a 112" T/F ( I think the T/F cu in's are right, been a long time) Now days that cu in represents a street motor?? WoW. I understand about compression releases and all but I'm an antique on an antique. I am going with mags this time as I'm too old for changing tubes.

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Old 02-03-2013, 04:20 PM   #9
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Ultima 74" cases, Rev Tech 4 speed trans, Carb, air cleaner & manifolds ect, Charging system 32 amp, rocker boxes w/good rockers, box of shims, spacers & misc engine parts, 16" Rear mag.
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Old 02-03-2013, 04:33 PM   #10
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Im confused (happens easily ), why didnt you hunt up a titled frame and a 2nd hand shovel motor etc if you are on a budget? Or even a complete basket, plenty out there in the $3K-$4K range.

Like you those HD bags are practical and look good
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Old 02-03-2013, 05:19 PM   #11
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I looked at all possibilities and came up with with a selected basket case build. I don't have the shop that I used to have, where I could rebuild or even make my own parts. In the past Iv'e done basket cases, running bikes that need gone thru and bought bikes and changed them around to get what I wanted in the end. This time I figure to put it togather one time the way I want it. I got a Jammer Swing Arm Frame w/mso, Cases w/mso and a new Trans with mfg paperwork, to make Registering in the state of Washington as easy as possible. There's plenty of almost new and good engines for sale But with Bill of Sale only. That means the engine was swapped out for a HiPo engine and the title went with the bike. Your whole bike has to be all togather in this state to get it blue taged and registered, If the state doesn't like your numbers or paper they can take the whole thing. Sometimes you can get it back, but thats a road I don't want to go down.
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Old 02-03-2013, 05:29 PM   #12
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Cool - looking fwd to watching the build
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Old 02-05-2013, 03:34 PM   #13
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Got my frame, swing arm and primary drive side assembly today. Couldn't resist mocking it up a bit. Whats Wrong With this Picture?? Guess what I didn't Know? Early frame - Late swing arm! I was Blinded By The Chrome! Have to list it on the parts board. BUT it was Chrome!!
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Old 02-08-2013, 04:32 AM   #15
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Just cracking a old guy Joke. I only bought it because the price was right, the chrome was an extra. But I did want the square swing arm Vs the older round one as I'm running a disk/sprocket wheel and fine tuning the gear ratio with the rear sprocket.
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Got my frame, swing arm and primary drive side assembly today. Couldn't resist mocking it up a bit. Whats Wrong With this Picture?? Guess what I didn't Know? Early frame - Late swing arm! I was Blinded By The Chrome! Have to list it on the parts board. BUT it was Chrome!!
Pony, what year frame is that? I thought the late/early swing arms would interchange with all Pre-Evo Big Twin Frames.
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Pony, what year frame is that? I thought the late/early swing arms would interchange with all Pre-Evo Big Twin Frames.
Answered my own question. Looks like a Dyna swing Arm?
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Just cracking a old guy Joke. I only bought it because the price was right, the chrome was an extra. But I did want the square swing arm Vs the older round one as I'm running a disk/sprocket wheel and fine tuning the gear ratio with the rear sprocket.
Awesome job so far and your mix of parts looks great. Is there really a difference as far as gearing the rear sprocket on a square swing arm vs a round one?
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Awesome job so far and your mix of parts looks great. Is there really a difference as far as gearing the rear sprocket on a square swing arm vs a round one?
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If you run an early swing-arm with the original drum hub, you are limited on sprocket size. Later wheels will take a whole gamut of different bolt on sprocket sizes.
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Okay. There is just so much stuff to learn. And thanks a lot for the knowledge!
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