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Old 02-07-2011, 12:46 PM   #21
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I've heard multiple stories of back drums breaking cables and cams or cams sticking with the brake locked up, just re-assured me that I need a front brake
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Old 02-07-2011, 01:13 PM   #22
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You just reminded me....had a rear brake lock up once upon a day on the way to work at AEE Choppers. Of course it was in the rain, went down, not hard nor too fast but slid in to a driveway out in Brea somewhere. I look up at a sign above me and its a fucking graveyard/memorial park! Woke my ass up.
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Old 02-07-2011, 03:44 PM   #23
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very few riders even pro roadracers can pull out of a front brake skid, when you hit that six piston disk brake it a turn and that front wheel looses traction from three well place rocks or a little oil in the road you have a 1/2 mili-second to get it straight before you go down face first.
then just when you get used to using the front brake and you turn into an oily parking space you get to pick up the bike while everyone watching wonders why you did that.
if your back wheel locks up you can still control the bike by leaning it, I had a trans lock up at 70 MPH and I got to practice my flat tracking skills but I didn't go down.
Front brakes work, but many times too well.
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Old 02-07-2011, 03:51 PM   #24
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does kleen up things back there..
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Old 02-07-2011, 03:54 PM   #25
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i push my bike too hard to not have working brakes at both wheels.
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Old 02-07-2011, 04:20 PM   #26
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if you ride hard and fast you have much better odds of going down hard and fast.
when you have only a back brake you learn to cruise. for that reason it may be safer with a back brake only.
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Old 02-07-2011, 04:32 PM   #27
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Better to have it and not need it...the reasoning of"it cleans up the bars and front end" doesnt fly,its not worth the chance of dying for aethsetics.Dont copromise safety for a "cool' look.
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Old 02-07-2011, 04:43 PM   #28
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if you ride hard and fast you have much better odds of going down hard and fast.
when you have only a back brake you learn to cruise. for that reason it may be safer with a back brake only.
when i started to no jockey no fb riding a good friend told me to ride like i have none...so far so good, i putt around and think way much further ahead than i used to , sometimes things that make you think more or become more conscious of your actions can be safer than relying on something that may or may not work in a given situation...
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and I'm always right behind you, or infront of you without front brakes!! hahaha

or sliding past me into traffic at a red light
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Old 02-07-2011, 05:01 PM   #30
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if you ride hard and fast you have much better odds of going down hard and fast.
when you have only a back brake you learn to cruise. for that reason it may be safer with a back brake only.
I agree. I don't have a front brake, just a rear disc. It is very easy to lock it up, but I've learned the limits of what my bike is capable of. I ride very carefully, I slow down when I'm near cars, and look at what's happening way down the road.

I've only ever wished I had a front brake again when I couldn't stop fast enough for a fast approaching turn. I braked as hard as I could while I was still going straight, tire locked up I let off and powered through the turn throwing sparks everywhere across the road. Luckily I didn't dump it but after it happened I thought to myself "that was really stupid of me", which it was but it was my own fault for going far too fast.

Like others have mentioned, try riding around without grabbing your front brake and get a feel for it. If you do decide to go rear brake only then make sure you keep up on it's maintenance because it's you're ONLY brake!
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Old 02-07-2011, 05:13 PM   #31
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In the wrecking yards you can see many of those rice grinders with fantastic brakes all squished up, I figger they must have had defective brake levers, right?
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Old 02-07-2011, 05:49 PM   #32
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Why not run a mini drum? Get a little stopping power up front with a spooly look.
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Front brakes are dangerous?? I can now picture all those 200+ mph MotoGp bike running spoolies.
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Old 02-07-2011, 07:34 PM   #34
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Burt Monroe's Indian went almost 200 and had really poor old drum brakes, and a Huyabusa has really great breaks, but I would be willing to bet more people are killed on the Busa than on old Indians, it's has to do with how you ride and thats about it.
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Old 02-07-2011, 07:54 PM   #35
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If you've ever run a Bonneville you'd know that you'd run out of gas before you hit anything : - ) I'd bet that more people were killed on Indians in the 20s through 50s than were killed on Busa's in that period.
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Old 02-07-2011, 08:23 PM   #36
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I am pretty situationally aware when I'm ridin. You gotta be.. your life kinda depends on it. Nothin' like going out for a nice enjoyable cruise and windin' up dead. I've pushed my luck a lot going entirely too fast and doing some very stupid shit. Thats why I'm changin' it up. I love to cruise too, I've just never had a bike that was made for it.. I always felt like the bikes were pressuring me to ride faster because thats where they felt comfortable. Having those ridiculous brakes did me a lot of good though, knowing how to use them helps quite a bit. I had some drunk car load of white trash idiots pull out of a bar parking lot in front of me on the motard.. I kinda saw it coming and had already anticipated it happening so I banged down from 6th into 4th and got ready to head towards the ditch instead of staring at the side of the car.. Sure enough the asshole pulls out into my lane and just stops.. On came the brakes and I was out around him by the time I got in front of him I was slowed down enough to give him a few friendly gestures.. I know how to stop a bike without lockin the brakes up pretty well.. Actually when I first started riding the motard I only used the back brakes until I got used to how powerful the front ones were.. I'll probably be rollin' with some front binders on it. I just wasn't sure how awful a bike would stop without em.. If you are ridin' a rigid and had some roughness to the pavement and got the ass end bouncing you ain't gonna stop until you hit what you are trying not to.
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Old 02-07-2011, 08:25 PM   #37
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Burt Monroe's Indian went almost 200 and had really poor old drum brakes, and a Huyabusa has really great breaks, but I would be willing to bet more people are killed on the Busa than on old Indians, it's has to do with how you ride and thats about it.
How you ride doesn't determine the actions of some dumb broad yakking away on her cell phone as she races out of her driveway without looking though does it.
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Old 02-07-2011, 10:06 PM   #38
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How you ride doesn't determine the actions of some dumb broad yakking away on her cell phone as she races out of her driveway without looking though does it.
Oh, I see you live in Seattle... yeah, we got some dumb drivers here.

I grew up here; lived in Taipei for a year or so, and was happy to come back to where the traffic wasn't so bad, and the people didn't drive so stupidly.

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Old 02-08-2011, 08:03 AM   #39
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and a Huyabusa has really great breaks,
Its funny, at a friends shop (sportbike), 99% of the 'busas that come in have one of the front discs removed for looks. I'll never get it.
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Old 02-08-2011, 11:06 AM   #40
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Its funny, at a friends shop (sportbike), 99% of the 'busas that come in have one of the front discs removed for looks. I'll never get it.
Now that is funny..As if removing one front disc is going to change the looks of the most hideous Jap sportbike ever...(to me a 'Busa looks like a huge bee..or a beetle..)
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