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Old 05-25-2012, 05:40 PM   #1
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Old 05-25-2012, 07:29 PM   #2
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Pull the handlebars back so they are straight in line with the front end. Take it for a spin. I'm thinking you will be surprised at the difference.
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/\ /\ as above, its all 'bout leaverage or as we call it 'the angle of your dangle'.
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Wider bars and smaller front wheel will help, but it's never gonna feel like a stocker.
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Don't forget to check that air pressure.
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What is a flatlander? I dig the apes! Especially if you intend to throw a twisted springer on there. As far as comfort and rideability, I say as long as it looks cool who cares. Since when have choppers been built for comfort. I'm reminded on a daily basis that my back doesn't like a hardtail, but that's why they invented ibproferin. Learn to ride it, and you'll only hone your riding skills, plus none of your buddies will want to ride it.
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Try riding with skinny ass pullbacks !!
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At the very least you got that DNA off there...
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Two things come to my mind. If the springer stem is chewed up in the middle shouldn't there be evidence of the chewing inside the neck?
The stem only has to be 1" where the bearings sit. You can safely file, sand, grind down the middle of the stem until it binds no more.
Second is that on stock Harley trees the lower bearing is a press fit while the upper bearing slides easy on and off.
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Old 06-27-2012, 03:47 AM   #15
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I would definitely look into the neck of the frame rubbing the stem. Sounds like someone burned thru with weld and it is hitting in there. Pull the top race out of the frame and slip the bottom tree in with the stem and check the clearance. Hey at least it's a family affair! LOL! Nice Ironhead man.
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Old 06-28-2012, 01:14 AM   #17
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4 to 5 " is the sweet spot!!!

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Glad I could help. Now show us a pic of the custom rockers.
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Glad you figured it out.
It can be frustrating, but you don't get what your after for free. it's the bikes way of saying "Don't give up on me"
Post some pics of your custom rockers (on & off the bike if you got 'em).
I'm very interested to see what springer rockers that reduce the trail look like.

Which front end will you end up using? DNA's are fine.
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I'd like to get a narrow twisted springer someday, and I will.
I got mine for $300, see them quite often in the classifieds for that. cheaper than a new DNA, I think?
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The rockers are kind of ugly...I don't know if I want to post them. Ha ha.

They basically moved the axle out forward to eat up some of the 9-10 inches of trail I had.

I took 3/8" plate and drilled holes in it and inserted 1/4 inch wall tubing in the holes and welded it up...trying to mimic the original rockers thickness and appearance so I could retain all of the original hardware.

Seriously the welds are ugly (MIG), but have great penetration (220V). I am glad the washers cover up the welds.

I was going to try to polish them up shiny steel. But I lost patience. I ended up painting them metallic silver same as the frame.

ugh, I guess I will post some pics for ridicule later tonight.

I think DNA's are fine too. yeah, I'd like to get a narrow twisted springer someday, and I will.
its about function , not form!!!! the new rockers work right? you made them yourself, so they were cheap right? sounds like a homerun!!!
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I'm just trying to figure out the trail story.
9" - 10" is allot of trail, & unless I'm wrong (which I may be) the DNA springer runs parralell with the neck, getting it's trail in the rockers (about 3.5").
Rake should have no real affect on trail.
To shorten the trail by 6" means bringing the front wheel closer to the bike, not further away.
Longer rockers prolly work fine, & may make the ride a bit nicer, but will only increase trail.
Since the problem was in the neck, I bet the original rockers will be fine. They also contain brass bushings, so I bet they'll hold up better (no disparagement meant to yours).
That's why I wanted to see them.
I could be totally wrong here. Let me know if I am.
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Man you made them sound terrible, but I think they came out nice.

I was looking at the offset at the rocker / axle, you're right that's not trail. my mistake.

So does it ride softer with the longer rockers?
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Make sure it's advancing the points. The slitest bind and it will miss.
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