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Old 07-04-2019, 04:45 PM   #21
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Been thinking about colour though...


maybe a blue.. metallic blue... or a green.

Want different ? Hot pink flake !


Im waiting for someone to weld Gummi Bears to their frame. That would be different and innovating.
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Old 07-04-2019, 06:51 PM   #22
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Hey, given your daughter's concerns, you could do it in a My Little Pony motif.

Is My Little Pony a thing in England? Is it a thing anywhere?

Alternate suggestion: Powerpuff Girls.
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Old 07-07-2019, 01:57 PM   #23
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yes, my little pony is a thing here... I endured taking her to the cinema last year to watch it.
In the whole cinema there was about 50 mothers and little girls...and 1 bearded guy with a little girl. got some looks!! haha

doing the bike on my little pony theme!! now she would be over the moon with that!! Woul
She calls my 68 genny the Flamesy, and the 51 Pan survivor the Sparkly... as she said it looks like the bike has sparkles from unicorns...

haha
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Old 07-07-2019, 03:46 PM   #24
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my little pony bike
your going to draw some "maybe" unwanted attention (it won't be the Cops)
i met your frame man in fakk am zee i was very impressed.
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Old 07-07-2019, 05:59 PM   #25
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"Unwanted attention, and it won't be from the cops"

Of course not. It'll be from small girls, and those little thugs will pursue you everywhere. You'll never rest again.
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Old 07-07-2019, 06:28 PM   #26
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I apologize. This thread has spun out into neverland.


Then again, the name Tinkebell has a nice ring. Oops, did it again.


Please post a pic of something manly so we can move on.
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Old 07-12-2019, 11:06 AM   #27
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Do it traditional and it will look good now and still look good in 30 years. A good clean build with attention to detail is timeless.
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Old 07-12-2019, 03:42 PM   #28
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I agree...detailed builds take 30 years .....no?😉
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Old 07-14-2019, 04:17 PM   #29
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Not real detailed but built in the late 60s with a stock frame and king/queen seat.
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Old 07-25-2019, 10:22 PM   #30
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Your frame looks good. Ive seen their site, but havent messaged them to see what one costs shipped to the US. Id love to do a hardtail bike again. not exactly practical for what I tend to do on a bike, but would be cool to build and have for tooling around on short rides.

The details of a frame, those with an eye for detail see them, regardless of the color. I look at frames and see what period they are, whats hacked off, etc. After seeing the German frame builders site, I realized Id like a 53-54-ish period wishbone pan frame with sidecar rings,....and swingarm rear, either electric start or earlier pan swingarm type for a stock type horseshoe oil tank. Probably 1 in 100 or less would notice the details of that frame, but id see it every time I came near it and grin inside because it was mine and Id like it. It may even be a alternator shovel lower with improved pan heads, just for fun.
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Old 10-18-2019, 06:38 AM   #31
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Another update!only been 4 months! haha

Been busy with other stuff, mainly the 68 genny, my newly bouth 74 econoline and my truck.. so the Pan build has gone to second plan.
Shifted some stuff about in the garage, got the 2 other bikes sorted, washed and under cover (unlikely we will get another good riding day over here)
and made some space on the lift...

Not much to look at.
Front 21 star hub, rear 16 mid star.... although I've always been keen on having an 18 rear, so wonder if now would be time to do so.
Tanks... have a peanut and a NOS banana Wassell I tried out.. but not keen on it, seems to long.
Suspension probably going with a wide glide and left drum brake I have... although also fancy the +6 narrow glide.. but wouldnt be able to have a front brake like on my shovel...
but want a front brake on this one as I'll be carrying little one with me.
Have a full mechanical brake setup, including forwards arriving from the US next week, so that will see me put more stuff together.
Want to wrap some rubber around those rims too.

Once I get new stuff then it will make me go through this a bit quicker and throw it all together.

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Happy days!!
Some stuff arrived today from the US - complete mech brake setup and a pair of exhaust ends...



Pretty! gives me something to start putting together...
now I've come to a problem....
The mech setup is for a star hub wheel.. there's no bearings on the drum.
But the rear wheel I have is mid star...
Is there any magic out there to get a drum from a star hub to go on a midstar? or is my option here to get a star hub for the back?

and if so... leaves me with a decision, if I have to get a new rear wheel with a star hub.. go 16...or 18... always fancied an 18 rear wheel chop...

suggestions? ideas? thanks!



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JP!

Congrats on the parts. Sadly the Mid star and mechanical drum doesn't work as far as I know. The Mid star needs bearing support on the one side which there's no provision for with a starhub. So in short, no. Get yourself a star or use a juice setup to go with the mid.
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Was hoping there was something clever out there to make up for the bearing difference...

I have a few juice setups but putting a juice setup on a 51 Pan and on a frame like this would be sacrilege.
I even have a juice setup for a star hub wheel. Just not a mech setup for a midstar. Dammit.

I'll have to source a star hub then...
The next question is.. 16 or 18 wheel... Might go for 18.
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Was hoping there was something clever out there to make up for the bearing difference...

I have a few juice setups but putting a juice setup on a 51 Pan and on a frame like this would be sacrilege.
I even have a juice setup for a star hub wheel. Just not a mech setup for a midstar. Dammit.

I'll have to source a star hub then...
The next question is.. 16 or 18 wheel... Might go for 18.
Unfortunately not that I know of! Somebody on here might tell you otherwise with far more experience than myself but I think you're tied to it.

I agree, I wouldn't ever have a juice again either having had a mech.. far better progressive feel and set up correctly brakes just as well!

Go 18" for sure, having had 16/18/19 I much prefer the latter two!
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the Pan was originally on a juice brake and worked beautifully, - this was the setup I had which is strange..
it's a drum for a starhub, with an early back plate (the one that sinks in into the drum)....but with a juice setup....
usually the juice setups, the back plate has a lip that goes over the drum border, this sinks in. but there might have been some years where the juice setups used drums from mech setups...




anyway... yes I'll probably go with an 18.
I should have thought about this earlier as could have got a star hub and rim on this last shipment of bits. :/
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Another small update! Santa came in early and dropped off my shinny Star hub laced to a 18" WM rim!

really happy with it.. even a fender (mudgard for us here) I had kicking about fits perfectly the size and tyre radius... will be a narrow Queen seat there on the back though!

Can't wait to get this going, think I have most of what I need now.



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Old 12-18-2019, 04:13 PM   #38
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Excellent decision, the 18".

Funny, and maybe just my ignorant kid's-eye, but as a kid who got obsessed with bikes c. 1964, I virtually never saw an 18" rear on a chopper. But as old pics here and elsewhere make clear, the woods were full of 'em. Maybe a regional (Detroit area) preference for the 16"?
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I think because of Easy Rider the 16" tire became suddenly so popular. From Hondas to Triumphs to any 70s chopper the 16" was the must have. Maybe also because the parts houses like Aee were pushing 16s and the fact that a correctly inflated 16 inch tire is a lot more comfortable. I like the 18" on the rear though.
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I have always liked the look of 18s, but never got round to do it as it would mean (on my other bikes) a change on fender, sissy bar, etc...

So now was the perfect opportunity to get an 18!

can't wait to get working on it this evening after work.
time is scarse, I usually only get to go in the garage from 8pm when little one goes to bed, but this Saturday she's off for 2 weeks to spend Christmas at her mums, so I'll be playing garage time.
oh.. and need to do oil change in the truck, fit door locks on the econoline, practice more my upholstery and start the first project...and....and... yeh you get the idea! not enough hours in the day for me!
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