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Old 01-31-2020, 09:24 AM   #1
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Norton has collapsed again...

https://www.msn.com/en-gb/money/spot...cid=spartandhp

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Old 01-31-2020, 09:45 AM   #2
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maybe if they spend more time building and selling bikes and less time racing them they would still be in business
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Old 01-31-2020, 02:50 PM   #3
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Not really surprising, their entire approach to business was the shits. I wondered how they managed to keep on going as long as they did.
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I wonder if this nontechnical thread is going to be suppressed.
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Old 01-31-2020, 03:42 PM   #5
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I wonder if this nontechnical thread is going to be suppressed.
It's not about suppression, it's about bordering on being off topic.

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Old 01-31-2020, 06:24 PM   #6
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Anyone seriously interested will have found out about the questionable business practices, but new Norton has nothing technically to do with old Norton and is as irrelevant to JJ as the latest Yamaha R1.

The new "Norton" is just an old name on an unrelated venture involving defrauded pensioners (pension investment should be governmentally discouraged from insanely high risk vanity projects like niche motorbike companies building garage jewelry for nearly dead old men), questionable promotion, and media coverups/selective ignorance because famous bike names make rational men into contemptibly stupid children.

It's all over UK news so best to go there. It's somewhat covered in Norton groups but their focus is as always on the bikes and not on why the company tanked.

https://www.rideapart.com/articles/3...rner-pensions/

Consider locking the thread with something like:
"Sticky: "New" Norton don't build choppers. Don't post about that company here."
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Old 01-31-2020, 08:43 PM   #7
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Potentially unpopular opinion . . . .

When a site goes from hundreds of regular contributors and thousands of regular readers to the same ten people posting a few times per week it may be time to relax the rules or broaden the scope.

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Old 02-01-2020, 05:13 AM   #8
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When a site goes from hundreds of regular contributors and thousands of regular readers to the same ten people posting a few times per week it may be time to relax the rules or broaden the scope.

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Agreed! i once tried to inject a little humor and banter but a waste of time so i no longer bother to post (exception) ...way to serious....custom used to be fun.
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Well at the very least, we're talking!!!

But let's face it, I can't start a new build every week so that guys'll reply and this site'll lit...

I have a new build in the pipeline, it will be unusual, usual with me builds, but it's not ready to start... You'll have to wait...

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Old 02-01-2020, 09:33 AM   #10
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Well at the very least, we're talking!!!

But let's face it, I can't start a new build every week so that guys'll reply and this site'll lit...

I have a new build in the pipeline, it will be unusual, usual with me builds, but it's not ready to start... You'll have to wait...

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its a shame you cant start a new build each week but keep us posted with what you are doing
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Well at the very least, we're talking!!!

But let's face it, I can't start a new build every week so that guys'll reply and this site'll lit...

I have a new build in the pipeline, it will be unusual, usual with me builds, but it's not ready to start... You'll have to wait...

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Old 02-01-2020, 12:25 PM   #12
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No...

I will build another Bonneville Salt Flats bike...

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I will build another Bonneville Salt Flats bike...

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Give me an idea of time scale, Iíll start saving up for the flights...
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I will build another Bonneville Salt Flats bike...

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Not this year Cookie,

Looking at 2021 which will be 10 years after my 1st foray and my 70th birthday Ö

Start saving!!! Speed Week is always 2nd week in August...

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When a site goes from hundreds of regular contributors and thousands of regular readers to the same ten people posting a few times per week it may be time to relax the rules or broaden the scope.

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I was once one of the thousands, and occasionally one of the hundreds. I couldn't have said it better than Jason. I check back from time to time to make sure I'm not missing anything interesting. With the small amount of activity, I don't have to check all too often. I don't know what happened. There seemed to be a mass purging of contributors at one time. I miss what this forum used to be. I learned a lot here.
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I was once one of the thousands, and occasionally one of the hundreds. I couldn't have said it better than Jason. I check back from time to time to make sure I'm not missing anything interesting. With the small amount of activity, I don't have to check all too often. I don't know what happened. There seemed to be a mass purging of contributors at one time. I miss what this forum used to be. I learned a lot here.
Social media is what happened. Forums across the board are not what they used to be. Look at how popular blogs once were.
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Is that all there is to it, then? Do you figure the JJ is dying and there's nothing to be done about it, and pretty soon it'll be dead and so long, everybody?

Not trying to goad you, just trying to understand what the deal is, what the attitudes are, and whether anything can be done, and if so, whether trying to keep the JJ alive is what (for instance) the owner wants to do. No offense or challenge is intended.
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Sorry to gum up your thread, French Owl. I'll stop now.
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Is that all there is to it, then? Do you figure the JJ is dying and there's nothing to be done about it, and pretty soon it'll be dead and so long, everybody?

Not trying to goad you, just trying to understand what the deal is, what the attitudes are, and whether anything can be done, and if so, whether trying to keep the JJ alive is what (for instance) the owner wants to do. No offense or challenge is intended.
Social media certainly has not helped forums in general. I would not say that the JJ is dying, but no one knows what forums will be like in 5 years from now, 10 years from now, etc.

In my opinion, this forum is still a wealth of information, and still has regular contributors. Sure it's slowed down, but haven't all other forums as well?
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