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Old 11-30-2011, 03:35 PM   #1
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I learned a new word yesterday, flattie shovelhead as compared to a cone head shovel. Other than liking the looks of the flat side better is there any reason I should look for one over the other?
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Old 11-30-2011, 03:45 PM   #2
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For one, they are titled with the number on the LH motor case. So you can essentially buy the LH case half with a title and build a complete bike around it and have no trouble titleing it. They started numbering the frames aswell starting in 1970.
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Old 11-30-2011, 03:46 PM   #3
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Most guys just call them a generator shovel. Usually guys use the term "cone shovel" not cone head.
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Old 11-30-2011, 04:57 PM   #4
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gennie shovels use a generator charging system versus cones where they use an alternator, which is supposedly more reliable, but with a cycle electric generator/regulator you should have no issues with the generator shovel. Oh and genny shovels are almost twice the cost of cone shovels.
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Old 11-30-2011, 05:09 PM   #5
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Slab side, kidney shovel, genny shovel, they all work. Flattie generally refers a flat-head motor, i.e.: a side valve motor. It's like learning a whole new language!
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Old 11-30-2011, 05:13 PM   #6
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Bit of course the genny shovel costs twice as much, everything I pick usually costs more.
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Old 11-30-2011, 05:18 PM   #7
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Bit of course the genny shovel costs twice as much, everything I pick usually costs more.
Take a look at the Shovelhead pictures thread: https://www.jockeyjournal.com/forum/s...ad.php?t=12435

Personally, I love the Flatside Shovels ('66 - '69) more than the Cone Shovels ('70 - '84). But it all depends on what you're looking to put together or buy. Cone Shovels are definately less expensive and more of them out there. Look around and figure out what you want and ask lots of questions.
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Old 11-30-2011, 05:36 PM   #8
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Go to shovelhead.usa great site and great info.
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Old 11-30-2011, 06:24 PM   #9
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Generator Shovels, are next in line for the coveted Panhead style price wars. Not to mention, much more rare in numbers, overall. But you can build a genny shovel out of the books too. It may not get the HD title, but it looks the same, overall. And even those will empty your wallet. But it will be brand new, and you can get more CID then the stock 1200.
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But you can build a genny shovel out of the books too. It may not get the HD title, but it looks the same, overall. And even those will empty your wallet. But it will be brand new, and you can get more CID then the stock 1200.
Yeah, but you gotta love the oldness of the oem cases, hence the $$$.
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Old 11-30-2011, 07:11 PM   #11
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if you get the slab shovel I think HD sends you a package of street cred points to your home address (no po boxes). doesnt even matter if the rest of your sled is complete garbage
and all the guys on the street will go "yo man is that one of those panner harleys or whatever?"
then to get it WFO you post a vid of yourself grinding off the right hand relay boss to a restoration forum so that all the guys can follow your how-to steps
and you finally reach Harley nirvana


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Old 11-30-2011, 07:37 PM   #12
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If your thinking of building a genarator case and going big cid. You might consider a set of delkron case's or S&S they will handle the big inch displacement a lot better than the stock cases. Stock cases will sometimes come completely unglued with the larger stroke. The cost of building a big inch stroker motor can get pretty pricey. I tied up close to ten grand in my 96" motor (Clone Panhead).
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Old 11-30-2011, 08:26 PM   #13
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I'm going to save some of my taxes this year, sell a couple of boats and some other toys, rob some money from the wife' purse and pick up a shovel project/roller/bike in the spring. In my head I'm still seeing something along these lines but we'll see.

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Old 12-01-2011, 02:06 AM   #14
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Does anyone search first then ask anymore?
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Old 12-01-2011, 09:55 AM   #15
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Sorry about not searching first, I did some but you don't always find what you're looking for through the mass of information. To be honest though I always liked the idea of having a conversation with someone that knew more about this stuff than I did, by searching and reading you get no interaction with anyone else, makes it kind of dry. I will however search a lot more in the future.
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Old 12-01-2011, 12:03 PM   #16
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Kudos for asking. There's alot of "experts" that would be too cool to admit they don't know wtf they are talking about. Glad to see a newb with some interest, you sound like you'll be getting the "Bug" that has bitten most of the members on this sight.
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Old 12-01-2011, 12:15 PM   #17
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Bit of course the genny shovel costs twice as much, everything I pick usually costs more.
Well, just be glad you didnt pick the Knucklehead as your "must have" engine.
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Old 12-01-2011, 12:24 PM   #18
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Yup, dood's who know what they are looking will know a genny shovel right away. Normally gives em a hard on right away. I have a 66 and the trick to making it reliable is doing the regulator/generator combo... do it right the first time.

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Old 12-01-2011, 02:54 PM   #19
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I prefer the slab side!
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Old 12-01-2011, 03:49 PM   #20
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I prefer cones, ...whats the subject?

I like all the old stuff but the AMF years had some stand out models .
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