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Old 08-24-2011, 01:17 AM   #1
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Whats up fellas, I think we can all agree that genny shovels look better but I keep hearing that cones are more reliable/better motor. I was always brought up being told that anything AMF was junk compared to old HD stuff. I've seen some really nice cone shovel builds but I was wondering what you guys have to say on the topic.

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Old 08-24-2011, 01:23 AM   #2
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Both have their advantages and disadvantages. Nothing wrong with AMF, they saved HD with their deep pockets. No AMF, no HD.
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Old 08-24-2011, 04:55 AM   #3
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The first few years of AMF, quality control was poor. Anything that has survived til now will most likely have the problems ironed out. Also, a cone shovel is a LOT cheaper than gen shovel.

Depends on the individual motor, really. If it's been well maintained, or thrashed.
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Old 08-24-2011, 05:09 AM   #4
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I think we can all agree that genny shovels look better

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Not me. I love the looks of a cone shovel.
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Old 08-24-2011, 06:14 AM   #5
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generators look great have never been the most reliable charging system, On a genny bike it's best to run a magneto so you can just get it home when the lights go out.
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Old 08-24-2011, 06:41 AM   #6
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Genny are nice and if you set em up right they are pretty reliable,i have electronic ignition,and a cycle electric 1 wire genny with regulator built in ,You set it and forget it 14k miles later still running mint no problems mags are nice but way over rated.Its all personal preferance..I have both a Cone and a Genny and Love both.My Pan 3/4 kick everytime hot or cold so lovely...Most the time i just use the electric leg though..But when i show off my mechanical abilitys I give her the 3/4 dirt bike style kick and Wham everytime.No Crazy Ballerina Dance on the kicker with Leg in the air and a Triple linden landin on the kicker for a power kick....hahahahah
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I like them both. on my 2nd cone. Cant afford a genny.
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Old 08-24-2011, 11:43 AM   #8
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Not me. I love the looks of a cone shovel.
Me too. I love the look of the cone, and I love the look of the panheads. So I went with both and run a cone shovel with panheads. Best of both worlds (looks wise) for me

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Old 08-24-2011, 12:03 PM   #9
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Now that this has turned into a poll, I'm one of the cone weirdoes too. I like the nice symmetrical V shape of the alternator motors, that funny kidney/baby bootie club foot shape on gennys looks goofy to me.
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Old 08-24-2011, 12:19 PM   #10
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Me too. I love the look of the cone, and I love the look of the panheads. So I went with both and run a cone shovel with panheads. Best of both worlds (looks wise) for me

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Old 08-24-2011, 12:24 PM   #11
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I don't think Jason would mind my posting this link...bottom most pic.
Sexytime.

http://www.jasonmcelroy.com/wrenching.htm
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Old 08-24-2011, 12:28 PM   #12
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That's pretty damned cool.
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Old 08-24-2011, 12:29 PM   #13
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Now that this has turned into a poll, I'm one of the cone weirdoes too.
Well - if it's a poll, I'd say Flatironmike's Mule knuckle/cone combo has to be the prettiest motor, but I'm not wearing my "purest hat" when it comes to that.
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it's only a matter of money..............
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Old 08-24-2011, 01:01 PM   #15
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I had a pan for a long time (rode the hell outta it) When i couldnt afford to rebuild it the right way, i Traded straight up for a fresh cone shovel and havent looked BACK
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it's only a matter of money..............
Not really. Some people flat out prefer one over the other. I'm working on my own personal second cone Shovel right now. I could've easily bought a Pan or a genny Shovel by now, but I enjoy a good cone Shovel and plan on finishing this one before I even consider buying something else. I do think that I'll build a Pan next, but money was never the mitigating factor, it was just preference.

I can say it would be money in a world where everyone thinks and acts the same, much like the majority of the "chopper" scene, but that's not the case across the board.
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Old 08-24-2011, 02:43 PM   #17
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I don't think Jason would mind my posting this link...bottom most pic.
Sexytime.

http://www.jasonmcelroy.com/wrenching.htm
That's the sexxxiest motor I've ever seen... Thats the new wallpaper...
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Old 08-24-2011, 02:56 PM   #18
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There's beauty in simplicity and by having the charging system run right off the crank, the cone motor has fewer moving parts. I still like the look of a genny motor, though.
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Old 08-24-2011, 03:25 PM   #19
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Even in a perfect world, Generators have rolling, rubbing and wearing parts and need to be serviced after a time. Alternators do not. In reality, with shorts, bad grounds and dead, batteries, alternators still have the edge in reliability.

Plus there are other updates through the years that make newer engines in the same family better. Deeper spark plug threads after '74, cam timing gears with tighter clearance for less noise, better oil pumps, stuff like that.

And you couldn't do this with a generator shovel:

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Old 08-24-2011, 03:48 PM   #20
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I don't think Jason would mind my posting this link...bottom most pic.
Sexytime.
Nope. Not at all. Thanks.

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That's the sexxxiest motor I've ever seen... Thats the new wallpaper...
Thanks, man. It has treated me well over the years.

Build story/pics here:

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http://www.jasonmcelroy.com/upperrebuild.htm



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