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Old 05-30-2011, 09:57 PM   #1
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Hey all.. long time non member lurker, geeze its my first post, hope its not too out of place, but I see the mighty Neo Dutch posts on here!

I'm a long time graphics/photography/art person (15+ years professional graphic designer) and bike freak..

I'm wanting to start doing some pin striping, local guy (great painter and striper, shall remain nameless) offers a day long 1 on 1 class, runs just over $400..

Is it worth it? or would I be better served getting hold of some brushes a book (recommendations?) and just .. do it..?

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The best book I've seen is by Alan Johnson.
http://www.amazon.com/Pinstripe-Moto...6807563&sr=8-1

To start out with, I would suggest a 000 Mack series 10.
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Old 05-30-2011, 10:12 PM   #3
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When I was trying to get started, I flew to middle America, for a weekend class with a big name. He does wonderful stuff, and has been at it since forever.
But I wouldn't say his teaching style suited my learning style.
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Old 05-30-2011, 10:18 PM   #4
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Thanks for the link Unkl, that looks like a great book!
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Another good resource is our Yahoo board:
http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/pinstriperspage/
There is a lot of good info in the archives and Database.

Start with Lettering Enamel, like 1-Shot, Chromatic, Ronan, etc.
Save the Urethanes for the pros. You need all the working time you can get.
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Old 05-30-2011, 10:59 PM   #6
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Another good resource is our Yahoo board:
http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/pinstriperspage/
There is a lot of good info in the archives and Database.

Start with Lettering Enamel, like 1-Shot, Chromatic, Ronan, etc.
Save the Urethanes for the pros. You need all the working time you can get.
Thanks again! There used to be a forum that was big for the whole striping thing, but it appears to have vanished, didn't know where to look!
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Old 05-30-2011, 11:04 PM   #7
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With youre art background you should pick it up fairly quick on youre own,if you cant then you might try classes.most important thing is to practice,a good book will help save time for sure ,good luck ,and enjoy the site welcome
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Forums come and go.

There are a few "how to get started" threads on the HAMB,
if you can find them.

Another place is this thread: http://www.volksrods.com/forum/showthread.php?t=13026

Once you develop some brush control,
there is lots of inspiring work on Pinheadlounge.com
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Old 05-30-2011, 11:11 PM   #9
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I've got a PDF on my site, "How to hold a pinstriping brush".
http://www.flyingeyeballs.net/Links.html

One common mistake people make,
is holding the brush upside down.
Works much better right side up.
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Old 05-31-2011, 04:56 AM   #10
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These two booklets are helpful:



Don't forget to post an intro..
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Old 05-31-2011, 05:30 AM   #11
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Pekka "Wizzzard" Mannermaa hosts pinstriping courses here in Finland from time to time, 2 days (I was very very hungover on day two..) and the cost was 200 euros (about $270 at todays rates), included a mack, literature and so on. Good for those tidbits the pro's know that learning the hard way might take a loooong time, and getting instant feedback on one's technique from a guy who can do scrolls in his sleep.
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Old 05-31-2011, 02:53 PM   #12
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I've been a life long artist, tattooing, airbrush, drawing, mural work in peoples houses and tried pinstriping... I have a lot of respect for those who can lay a line down. I gave up after a few weeks on scrap metal. Lol!
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Old 05-31-2011, 08:18 PM   #13
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I highly recommend the 'Wizard's Pinstriping DVDs'. There is a range of instructional DVDs from Basic Pinstriping to Dagger and Scroll work.
I'm from Australia also, and wanted to learn pinstriping 5 years ago. These DVDs were a huge help when I started out.
If you already have some art skills, you should be able to pick up the basics pretty quick.
Absolutely no disrespect to the artist charging $400 for a 1 day course, but the Wizards Basic DVD will give you all the knowlegde to get started. I've never taken a Pinstriping course, but used the DVDs as my source of information and tips (and still use them to this day).
Goodluck with it all.

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Old 05-31-2011, 08:59 PM   #14
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I thought this thread was about dancing single mothers! Anyone have suggestions on how to pick up some cheapish good brushes?
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Mack Series 10, around $13.
Don't try and save a couple bucks with the Mack Series 20.

And don't try practicing with Rustoleum.
It tacks up way too fast, and doesn't flow well enough.
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Old 05-31-2011, 11:01 PM   #16
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I wouldn't spend the money on a class. Every striper I know just read and practiced, and most guys that you meet that have been doing it awhile will share tips and tricks.
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Old 06-01-2011, 12:09 AM   #17
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Cheers guys, all great advice.. Think I'd be better off getting a book or two and a dvd and just.. DOING it!
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Old 06-01-2011, 01:07 PM   #18
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I wouldn't spend the money on a class. Every striper I know just read and practiced, and most guys that you meet that have been doing it awhile will share tips and tricks.
thats what i say read, practice, practice every day!! and if you can do that you will become a striper what someone else does may not work for you one handed, 2 handed brush choice all variables
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Old 06-01-2011, 03:22 PM   #19
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Try the Kafka scrolling brush, size 1 or 3. You can do traditional stripe designs with it also. It's the right brush for me! I have tried using Mack and can't stripe worth a damn with them. I think finding the right brush and paint consistency is the key to pulling good lines. Design will come with time.
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there are a number of great magazines out there that will inspire you with lotsa eye candy. here's a few...

http://www.signcraft.com/home.aspx

http://www.autoartmagazine.com/

http://www.ratfink.com/kustom-kulture.php
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