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Old 10-01-2012, 06:36 AM   #1
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Setting up a trike right now that has a juice drum brake system. Has anyone tried to adapt a setup where you can brake just one wheel of choice for slow speed manauvering?
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Setting up a trike right now that has a juice drum brake system. Has anyone tried to adapt a setup where you can brake just one wheel of choice for slow speed manauvering?
I would think 2 separate MC''s but I see no reason why you would want to do that,,it cause you to flip
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If the drums have e-brakes you could set the cables up on separate levers allowing you to brake each wheel individually. That's what they do in vintage hill climb cars. This way the pedal operates both wheels together eliminating the chance of flipping.
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I would think 2 separate MC''s but I see no reason why you would want to do that,,it cause you to flip
You didn't quite catch it in my post..........it is for slow speed manauvering. It's a long trike and the ability to single brake would be great. I am from the farm where independent brakes were a way of life. My thougts are to have a standard rear brake pedal that works both drums at the same time but also have heel brakes that would activate the selected drum.
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If the drums have e-brakes you could set the cables up on separate levers allowing you to brake each wheel individually. That's what they do in vintage hill climb cars. This way the pedal operates both wheels together eliminating the chance of flipping.
It does have a cable e-brake and that thought has also went through my mind.
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You didn't quite catch it in my post..........it is for slow speed manauvering. It's a long trike and the ability to single brake would be great. I am from the farm where independent brakes were a way of life. My thougts are to have a standard rear brake pedal that works both drums at the same time but also have heel brakes that would activate the selected drum.

The speeds/ and weighs at which you are dealing with are far different in these applications, I would not suggest trying that set up with a trike
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The speeds/ and weighs at which you are dealing with are far different in these applications, I would not suggest trying that set up with a trike
I am not talking about going into a corner at 30 mph and stomping on one drum. I am talking about parking lot manauvering....tight situations so you can avoid 3 point turns and shifting in reverse.
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I am not talking about going into a corner at 30 mph and stomping on one drum. I am talking about parking lot manauvering....tight situations so you can avoid 3 point turns and shifting in reverse.
I think it's a geometry problem. It's only gonna turn on a radius as short as what the fork stops allow whether you steer it or power it around with one rear wheel, right? OT but by the way, I'm a concrete guy too; a producer. You a producer, foundation contractor, or?

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I am not talking about going into a corner at 30 mph and stomping on one drum. I am talking about parking lot manauvering....tight situations so you can avoid 3 point turns and shifting in reverse.
You could never get it to work like a tractor does,,no offense but your trying to hard to create something that is really not needed
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I think it's a geometry problem. It's only gonna turn on a radius as short as what the fork stops allow whether you steer it or power it around with one rear wheel, right? OT but by the way, I'm a concrete guy too; a producer. You a producer, foundation contractor, or?

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You could never get it to work like a tractor does
Why??
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Old 10-01-2012, 10:43 AM   #11
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Guy, why couldent you take two peddles like flh peddles, bend one backwords and mount side by side---one would be pointed left and one pointed right and Mount two mc's side by side. Going down the road, youd step on both at the same time but, at slow speeds you could slide your foot to ether one?
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Old 10-01-2012, 11:08 AM   #12
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My tractor has two brake pedals side by side and close enough so that you can step one both simultaneously, or either one. They also have an interlocking bar that locks both pedals together so they don't operate independently. I think that would be mandatory on a vehicle that would be operated at any kind of speed on the street.

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The two pedals thing could be dangerous. If in a semi emergency situation you failed to get your foot on both petals, and stomped hard, it would become a real emergency.

Here's a thought. Two electrically powered line lock valves, one on each wheel side of the brake line junction to the real brakes. And use an on-off-on switch, or two toggles. Hit the switch before pushing the brake pedal, and the hydraulic pressure only goes to the unlocked side. You'd only have half the braking power, since the m/c to wheel cylinder ratio would double. But at the speeds the OP wanted to use it, it wouldn't matter. You'd want to put the switch(es) in a place where they wouldn't get accidentally bumped, or maybe put aircraft style covers on them, so you could only switch them on when the cover is open.
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Old 10-01-2012, 12:04 PM   #14
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DONT DO IT. It will only be a matter of time (no matter what precautions you take) that you will be doing 70 and tap the brakes and only get it on one side....insta-donut.
If its a trike it probably has reverse, use it to turn in tight spaces.
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Old 10-01-2012, 01:43 PM   #15
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The turn radius on the average tractor is twice that of your long trike & yes the one brake grab is an enevitable epic fail.
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Old 10-01-2012, 02:00 PM   #16
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is it going to be a trike or an army tank with halftracks in the back
and fixed front end ??
then you need seperate brakes
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Old 10-01-2012, 02:52 PM   #17
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With all these guys saying it shouldn't be done, I think it must now be done!

Is this a stock servi car rear end? I guess it would have to be a differential axle to work.

On a tractor are the individual wheel brakes mechanical?
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Old 10-01-2012, 03:35 PM   #18
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On a tractor are the individual wheel brakes mechanical?
Can't say about all tractors, but my 35 hp farm tractor has mechanical brakes.

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Old 10-01-2012, 04:22 PM   #19
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Wow! Post's just disappear around hear......quickly.

Thanks to all that responded.

I see it's the same-O-same-O around here. Later..........
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Old 10-02-2012, 03:35 AM   #20
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use the cable operated parking brake and actuate them with a hand lever . push for left and pull for right !!

Just like the dune buggys you used to see all over south Fla !!
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