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Old 02-14-2019, 07:39 PM   #41
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I think I might like it. The bike I mean.
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I was actually talking about the hidden face in photos.

hahahaha, i didn't get that. and here i am explaining my ass off
no i guess i just generally try to spare people my ugly mug
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Old 02-15-2019, 02:21 AM   #43
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Ratso, don't keep anything to yourself, like i said i am always happy
to discuss things and this is still in a pretty early phase.
the bars won't stay.

i think the height and general concept is cool,
but i want something narrower at the base and a little more V shape in
the uprising part of the tubes.

when these are shortened they look ridiculous
and i think the base is too wide for the narrow glide trees.

too modern looking, overall.

a friend had them lying around and i bought them just to see how a mini ape would look.

a little more in this direction maybe, hard to explain:







i am still a little concerned about the rear section and seat bench.
my plan is to compress the shocks all the way with ratchet straps,
then put a chain or something on the tire and fit the fender. then build
a frame-like structure that will include the struts and a small push bar that
will carry the taillight and can take a little back cushion or something alike
for passenger comfort, ideally removable.
i put FLH shocks in it now to get some ground clearance, 13 1/2" long.
my fear is the fender might be too far atop of the tire and that it will look stupid.
how much travel do these things have? i 'll have to check that first.
i'm afraid the way it sits in the mockup it will just bottom out all the time...



thanks for the kind words everyone!


next up is the gear box, i'll be asking a lot of questions soon
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Old 02-15-2019, 09:13 AM   #44
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Going back a page I like the rear fender fragment, looks good on there & the headlight bracket too!
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started working on the trans and drove the main seal out.
there are some scars on that little spacer now, but i hope i can
smooth them out.


someone tried to seal the whole thing by applying

liquid sealant or gasket maker on the outside. cute.









also, the rear brake and axle spacer setup are done. hooray




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Old 02-25-2019, 02:36 AM   #46
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built myself some fork shrouds













front end assembly is a nightmare now but hey...
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I like the cowbells.
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Old 02-25-2019, 04:06 PM   #49
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Me too. That bike looks comfortable and competent (averting my gaze from the brakeless front).
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...which will not stay. that's just a mock up wheel from some evo sportster
i borrowed from a friend. it was on the bike when i got it but i gave i'll give
it back together with the hideous front end that used to be on it...



i am awaiting an early sportster front wheel with one of the next containers,
i bought it on ebay in the US a good while ago.

the plan is to lace a 21x1.60 or 1.85 rim to the "hamburger" hub and somehow
put it between the 35mm fork legs.


if anyone has a good one laying around, i'd love to have a second one,
or maybe another 33.4mm front end, too.


the shrouds still need some adjustment until they sit dead center,
but i already love the look
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...which will not stay. that's just a mock up wheel from some evo sportster
i borrowed from a friend. it was on the bike when i got it but i gave i'll give
it back together with the hideous front end that used to be on it...



i am awaiting an early sportster front wheel with one of the next containers,
i bought it on ebay in the US a good while ago.

the plan is to lace a 21x1.60 or 1.85 rim to the "hamburger" hub and somehow
put it between the 35mm fork legs.


if anyone has a good one laying around, i'd love to have a second one,
or maybe another 33.4mm front end, too.


the shrouds still need some adjustment until they sit dead center,
but i already love the look
Ive got a lot of them but they are my favorite front end, i kinda hoard them
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Old 02-26-2019, 07:27 AM   #52
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you're a bad person.
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Looks so damn good Fred! I love those shrouds too, reminds me of the old triumph front ends!

Is the motor sound or does it need a freshen up?
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Old 02-27-2019, 02:54 AM   #54
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i was told it had been rebuilt a few years ago.
from what i have seen that must be true, it was pretty grimey
on the outside but it cleaned up well and found some other hints.


this what i found when i pulled the front belt pulley





i didn't know accel builds cranks?



the inside of the cam housing behind the cone looked like new,
and there is a high volume S&S oil pump on it.
the heads have been rebuilt right before i bought it and i heard it run,
no smoke or rattles. all gaskets i can see are of the expensive type
and look newish. so, i have hope the engine is pretty solid overall.

the timing plug is stripped and was fastened with silicone, though
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It's been awhile since crank parts were sold with the Accel name on 'em. I cannot remember hearing anything bad about them.....really anything at all. In the end if it ain't broke don't fix it.
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finally started working on the transmission.


pulled all the studs and gave it a good bath









here's the reason for the black paint, someone welded some cracks
and put bondo on it for some reason. welds look fine, so it's going to stay like that i guess.





afterwards i put new bearings in and pried the 4th gear bushing out,
i put up quite a fight but fortunately lost in the end












today i'm going to ream it to fit the main shaft and then hopefully
have some time left to proceed with assembly.
there is 2 mystery parts in the sealing kit that i suspect are not needed
on my transmission, maybe someone can guide me?








other than that i think it's pretty straight forward.
let's see how it works when i start putting shafts and gears back into the case
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i just realized the main shaft bearing and cup have to be put in together
with the main shaft and gears, after the main gear is installed.
so out it goes again, and onto the main shaft


the reaming of the main gear bushing went well, everything fits snugly together now.







put the little seal in place, and now it should be good to go.





instead of the original spacer, seen on the top of the pic, i bought a 3 piece set
that sports an additional shaft seal in the middle.





now i have a question regarding the outer main gear seal.
the kit i have from James contains a double sided shaft seal,
seen here on the left.
the other kit has one that is open at the bottom, seen on the right:





both have a cork ring in the kit.


which one should i use, any opinions?


also, i measured the thickness of the cork ring and the seals and found
that toghether they'd be protruding the recess in the tranny housing where
they should sit... do i still use both of them?


this is how i would put in the 3-piece kit and the cork before topping it with the main seal:







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I personally like the James seal.

Others more experienced on trans stuff will have recommendations better than mine.
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i chose the James seal, somehow it looked more trustworthy.


this is the rest of yesterdays work:


main shaft installation















auxiliary shaft is next









put in main shaft bearing shield

and auxiliary shaft lock washer and tighten everything



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install the James style seal







tighten and seal bottom studs and put in the selector forks











find a broken spring in the ratchet mechanism aaaaaand everything grinds to a halt until the new parts arrive...







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