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Old 05-21-2020, 08:03 AM   #21
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no shit? no key? wow must be a tight fit.
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Old 05-21-2020, 08:08 AM   #22
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Fusion weld a couple of spots with a TIG
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Old 05-21-2020, 09:01 AM   #23
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nope just press.
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Old 05-21-2020, 05:34 PM   #24
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No, they're press-fit and that's it. No key. I actually don't know how the hell I'd keep 'em aligned right other than scribing a mark...
being from a few generations back in time - I can not figure out how to post pictures

the tool I have is self explanatory - you use the tool with movable pins @ zero and retard and advance to 10 degrees - and it uses the end cut out for the advancer that is zero to the cam lobes center at the heads up spot

TO install - you put the gear in what you want for timing on the pins that you set in place - and then the cam spud in the cut out location that is spring loaded - in the press and your done

I can send you pictures but I have no idea how to post them
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Old 05-21-2020, 06:55 PM   #25
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What you using the JIMS?
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Old 05-21-2020, 07:01 PM   #26
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pricy but yes the jims cone motor unit
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I've heard JIMS tools all have gold inside.
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Their parts must be gold plate on the inside also.
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I was curious and found the JIMS instructions

https://www.jimsusa.com/wp-content/u...09/1290-IS.pdf
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That's slick; never thought of using something like the lash check pins for degreeing.

The only thing that sucks is you never actually know what "heads up" is for a cam unless you have some others to check it against...

You can always text me, too, John or email me or whatever and I can help you post pics.
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Degreeing a cam is just a degree wheel and dial indicator away. If you're wanting to know.
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Old 05-22-2020, 11:09 AM   #32
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Figured I'd add my way, I haven't been like John and needing to regularly do it. I scribe a mark across the gear inside back face from the timing mark tooth to the tooth 180 degrees away. I then straight edge or key stock the keyway on the cam and center that on my scribe mark.
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Yeah, I suppose that's true. I guess I was just thinking that unlike a V8, you'd sort of have to assemble, degree, remove, move gear, reinstall, and recheck.

Not that much work if you're not in a hurry.
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in a real shop as i see it we buy cams with out the gear as I have them all as stuff left over from many jobs

reason its cheaper to buy that way direct in volumn and installing the customers gear from Harley always made sense to me as they set it correct in the first place with the lash

knowing some still had the paint mark and some did not it was a quick and easy way to change a cam and not add a noise

all I needed was a quart of milk but jims will sell you the farm only
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To all that followed and helped with my Shovelhead cam & shovelhead pushrod threads, If you remember this all started to get the bike to start easier. Well, it worked, I got it back together the other day and hit that starter button. It fired up in less than one revolution! Man it is nice to have it start like it should. The main problem was that whoever put this together had the valves way too tight.
So thanks to all that helped.
anyone need a set of S&S quickie pushrods?
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Old 05-31-2020, 12:41 PM   #36
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sweet good on you dude not giving up on it

we see the early machines wanting to really be farm tractors - and look at fixes that way -simple -
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