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Old 09-18-2008, 11:54 AM   #1
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Default oil filter - to run or not to run

I'm looking for personal experiences from people who have run without a traditional oil filter. I'm talking about running without your normal run of the mill bike oil filter.. If you ran with a small inline filter or some other idea post your experiences!

I'm trying to make some decisions on what to run on my pan, but id like to hear experiences from as many people as possible first..
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Old 09-18-2008, 01:25 PM   #2
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I've run with and without and recommend to run with one. You can get filters that slip over the return tube inside the oil tank and are hidden. Why would you not want to run one?
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Old 09-18-2008, 01:47 PM   #3
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Im going to run with SOMETHING.. Just want to get away from the big twist on filter.

Looking at a small inline magnetic filter on the return line and maybe a magnet on the bottom of my oil tank?

looking for something invisible sort of. Any links on the oil filter youre talking about?
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Kiwi Indian sells something made for an Indian oil tank which slips over the return line inside the tank but the same principal can be used for any dry sump oil tank. Personally, I like external filters with some cooling capability. And you'd need to make sure the return tube inside the tank is accesable from the fill cap. Or, do something like the HD square oil tanks and run a filter housed inside the tank. Very similar to KiwiMikes design.
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Old 09-18-2008, 02:05 PM   #5
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I've run both, A while back Trent told me about running the small inline unit. I'm real happy with it. Easy to clean out, looks good, works fine. I do run a magnet type plug in my oil bag for the bigger chunks. You never know when you might want to reclaim that wrist pin keeper!!
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Old 09-18-2008, 02:16 PM   #6
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Default Re: oil filter - to run or not to run

anyone have a link to the inline magnetic filter. i had it bookmarked on an old computer and remember it took a good long while for me to find.
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i have an inline from Earls, if you're running a HD you can get the sifton units a little cheaper. you can kinda see it peeking out down there.

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how would you go about making that work if you've got hard lines?
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break the line somewhere and add it with 2 pieces of tubing .
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Default Re: oil filter - to run or not to run

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i have an inline from Earls, if you're running a HD you can get the sifton units a little cheaper. you can kinda see it peeking out down there.
Sorry to hijack.

2 wheel, is that your only filter on your Triumph? I still have no idea which way I'm going to go so I am still looking at all of my options. I may go with an oil tank that has the stock Triumph type filter in the tank or your version if I run a tank without a filter bung.
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Old 09-18-2008, 11:29 PM   #11
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i have an inline from Earls, if you're running a HD you can get the sifton units a little cheaper. you can kinda see it peeking out down there.


That's exactly what I'm looking for my ride. Do you know the p/n or description? There are several different types/models.
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Old 09-19-2008, 07:39 AM   #12
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Default Re: oil filter - to run or not to run

no, it's not the only filter. there's also a screen filter in the sump (it's a preunit) and another screen filter in the oil tank. so i'm triple screen filtered.

i got all the pieces from here: http://www.anplumbing.com/shop/index.php

the filter itself is 230304, and then you need to get -4 AN 'superstock' hose barbs. don't bother with the superstock hose, it won't go on anything but those fittings (trust me, i've tried). the shits a little pricey unfrotunately.
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were gettin off track! Lookin for more personal experiences and setups...
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my apologies, i'll try not to provide such relevant information in the future.
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I was thinking, 'Isn't this as relevant as you can get?' Filter, availability, plumbing...What else are you looking for, other than +1's?
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Old 09-19-2008, 09:50 AM   #16
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here's one that comes with barbs, 5/16, 3/8
http://store.summitracing.com/partde...5&autoview=sku
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Old 09-19-2008, 10:53 AM   #17
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If you ran with a small inline filter or some other idea post your experiences!
Yeah Josh, stop derailing the thread!
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I run inline screen/magnet "pre filters"... and thats ALL I run.
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Default Re: oil filter - to run or not to run

MAP Cycle makes a nice universal oil filter kit, check it out here

http://mapcycle.com/itemdesc.asp?ic=MAP6510&eq=&Tp=

Haven't used one yet, I think I will on my next build I am just getting started on, a '61 T100

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Old 09-19-2008, 12:43 PM   #21
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I was thinking, 'Isn't this as relevant as you can get?' Filter, availability, plumbing...What else are you looking for, other than +1's?
What I was looking on more or less is 'yeah ive been running em for 10 years and put 40k miles on my pan with no issues' or 'yeah i tried it, but i blew up my motor'

I know of various filters available, but im looking for experiences from people who have run them over time and the issues theyve had.

Thanks to those who responded with info
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Old 09-19-2008, 01:59 PM   #22
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I have never run a filter on any of my pan or shovelhead engined bikes but I have always started with a fresh engine and a clean oil tank and I change my oil every thousand miles.If people ask me if they should run a filter I always say 'yes".-Hypocritical but avoids a lot of discussion.
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I run inline screen/magnet "pre filters"... and thats ALL I run.

can you post a link please to the one you use or tell us where to buy it?

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dont forget that most of the bikes here dont really have anything a magnet is gonna help. its 90% brass or aluninum shavings, most anything steel is a bearing or rod or somthing like that-you wont need a magnet to tell you your f**ked!. just throwin that out there.
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Old 12-12-2009, 01:02 AM   #25
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Sideshow, I have run my pan/knuck chopper (knuck lower end, panhead top end) for 35 years, with no oil filter. Never been a problem, but I do change my oil every 2000 miles religiously. What would I say about a filter? Run one if you can, but don't worry too much about it if you can't. A filter wasn't even available from the MoCo until the late 40's (or was it the early 50's?) anyway.
And No, I don't intend to install one, either.
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Ive run pans and shovels with and without oil filters..System one makes an inline filter i really like..its not the large particles that most oil filters catch that kill your motor..its the sub-micron crap that does ya in in the long run..check out amsoil's web site..interesting articles on oil and engine wear..if you like changing your oil every 1,000 miles..than a bike without a filter may not be such a bad thing..also depends on what you pay for your engine rebuilds..
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can you post a link please to the one you use or tell us where to buy it?

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