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Old 08-31-2019, 08:33 PM   #221
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Refreshed and ready to go.



I guess at some point Roy worked the heads or Roy couldnt keep from tagging them.



1 broke fin, fixed up.



Front mount repaired.



BMO Velva Lifters and blocks



Old S&S manifold had too much clamp rash so ponied up the cash for some bling. Panifold !
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I'm glad you got Roy and Harold involved!

"BMO Velva Lifters" sound like something they'd sell at a waxing parlor.
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Old 09-01-2019, 01:43 AM   #223
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I like your story.

The metal may come and go.

The love and connections you create along the way are the reason we live.

For those in tune with what matters.

My goal in life is not money, fame, recognition.

It is connection, choice, understanding.

Thinking you may be on a similar path given this thread . . .

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Old 09-01-2019, 03:23 AM   #224
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Looks like this old girl might see some proper miles and has been rebuilt with love, not fucked and tossed in the docks per se. My panhead suffered with similar levels of woes I remember considering flying to the US to hunt the guy down and strangle him haha! different sized pistons was the best of surprises I found.

Glad she's almost there! damn you deserve some time on her after the work!
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Old 09-01-2019, 07:46 PM   #225
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I'm glad you got Roy and Harold involved!

"BMO Velva Lifters" sound like something they'd sell at a waxing parlor.



Sally definitely need a "Brazilian".


Story time....


In the Austin area is Lake Travis. One "beach" is called Hippy Hollow.
Hippy Hollow is a clothing optional area that in the 70's was a hotbed of naked and half-naked swimmers. My father always seemed to launch his boat at the ramp nearest to Hippy Hollow. Go figure. So one sunny Saturday the family gets in the boat and makes a pass by Hippy Hollow. My mother pretends not to be angry while my father and us boys peer onto the beach looking for a show. We happen by a swimmer whose inflatable raft has sprung a leak. Not being a great swimmer, she asks for a ride back near the nude beach. My father being the great humanitarian that he is allow this topless woman all of 22 years old into the boat. My mother is fuming. I literally saw steam escaping her ears. My father tells us boys to keep our eyes forward to watch for floating debris so we dont hit any. I dont recall EVER hitting debris in the lake before and I'm sure its for my mothers sake that we do so. Of course we take turns watching the water then looking at the girl, watching the water then looking at the girl, and so on. The thing that sticks out the most in my mind was what was sticking out the most on this woman. HAIR. Like the old cartoon, HAIR BEARS. Ye-egads! I think she had Buckwheat hidden in her shorts. I'm talking hanging out by the hand fulls. Colin Kaepernick has got nothing on this chick. We make it by Hippy Hollow and drop off the woman much to the relief of my mother. The young lady gives my brother and I a wink as she says good buy and thank you. I will never forget that girl. Cant remember her face, but will always remember the bush.


Hows that for needing a "Brazilian"?
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Old 09-02-2019, 01:41 AM   #226
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I miss "bush"
its not in vogue nowadays.
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Old 09-02-2019, 08:47 AM   #228
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Sally definitely need a "Brazilian".


Story time....


In the Austin area is Lake Travis. One "beach" is called Hippy Hollow.
Hippy Hollow is a clothing optional area that in the 70's was a hotbed of naked and half-naked swimmers. My father always seemed to launch his boat at the ramp nearest to Hippy Hollow. Go figure. So one sunny Saturday the family gets in the boat and makes a pass by Hippy Hollow. My mother pretends not to be angry while my father and us boys peer onto the beach looking for a show. We happen by a swimmer whose inflatable raft has sprung a leak. Not being a great swimmer, she asks for a ride back near the nude beach. My father being the great humanitarian that he is allow this topless woman all of 22 years old into the boat. My mother is fuming. I literally saw steam escaping her ears. My father tells us boys to keep our eyes forward to watch for floating debris so we dont hit any. I dont recall EVER hitting debris in the lake before and I'm sure its for my mothers sake that we do so. Of course we take turns watching the water then looking at the girl, watching the water then looking at the girl, and so on. The thing that sticks out the most in my mind was what was sticking out the most on this woman. HAIR. Like the old cartoon, HAIR BEARS. Ye-egads! I think she had Buckwheat hidden in her shorts. I'm talking hanging out by the hand fulls. Colin Kaepernick has got nothing on this chick. We make it by Hippy Hollow and drop off the woman much to the relief of my mother. The young lady gives my brother and I a wink as she says good buy and thank you. I will never forget that girl. Cant remember her face, but will always remember the bush.


Hows that for needing a "Brazilian"?

Got fond memories of "Hippy Hollow" years ago!
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Old 09-02-2019, 09:11 AM   #229
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I got more than one sunburn there back in the 70's
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Old 09-22-2019, 05:07 PM   #230
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I have good new and bad news.


The good news...


Tins are back from the painter. Pics will come soon.
The bike is almost complete, with the exception of installing tins and carb.


The bad news.


While rolling engine over to do pushrods I did not notice a rag had fallen into belt drive. Seemed stiff when rotating and heard a "pop". I checked primary side and pulled rag out. Clutch basket seems a bit wobbly. Looks like I have to pull clutch and hub to see whats going on.


Damn it.



Sally, why do you want to be so bitchy ?
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You know what they say.... if it has wheels or tits....
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Old 09-23-2019, 03:24 PM   #232
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Sneak peek, subdued silver flake



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Old 09-25-2019, 08:51 AM   #233
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Ok, here we go.


Funky clutch issues. As said before, the clutch shell was rocking and rolling and I noticed the pressure plate moved a bit side to side as well.


I tore into it for a look-see.



A little rusty. No surprise with open primary





Some scoring on fingers. No deep grooves. Fiber surface ground up.



Retainer chewed up from wobble



Found 2 of the 3 long fingers loose. Not sure if someone welded this up or thats the way its supposed to look.



Clutch shell. Groovy ! Scored at hub surface








Clutch steels. Neat spring loaded balls to keep it quiet.






So with a shitty hub and a groovy shell the decision was made to replace the whole thing. Im sure with time and effort the "original" parts could be made to work. I prefer to replace and not have to get back in there for a while.
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So the decision was made to replace clutch/shell.


The original primary is BDL so I went that direction. New clutch basket reveals that the original was DEEPLY cut. Its possible someone may have chucked it up on a lathe to clean it up at least once, maybe twice.


New clutch is BDL Competitor. I have run a couple of the Primo's and decided to try the BDL. Seemed OK out of the box. Sally had other ideas. After pressing the hub/basket together and sliding it onto the mainshaft I reached for the hub nut. 1/2 a turn and it stops. Hmmm. Try old nut and she spins on easily. Back to new nut. 1/2 a turn and stops. I try some Emory cloth to inside of new nut to see if any burrs are the cause. No dice. Same issue. Fuck. So now I wait to see if vendor can score a new nut under warranty. Meanwhile factory nut "could" get cut down to work. That idea is on the back burner until I hear back about warranty.
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Old 10-09-2019, 11:46 AM   #235
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I got the hub nut sorted out. I asked the vendor to send a replacement only to have the same issue of nut threading on 1/2 a turn. At that point I decided it was not them but me who was not paying attention. So very gently started to turn the nut with a socket wrench. 1 turn good. back it off, take a look. I could see the nut was giving up some shavings but not the mainshaft. Gradually getting further onto the mainshaft. Finally sunk it home and the nut goes on/off with no need to manhandle.




Now at this point I have the bike complete minus the rear fender(more on that later). So whats a boy to do ? Start kicking !


I do the ritual (as best as I can remember) and not happening. Checking this and checking that, kick again. Checking this and checking that, kick. Come on, Sally. I refuse to get mad. I also refuse to beg. After 4 hrs of on and off kicking, I give up and push her back into garage. I am not defeated. I assume she's flooded to the point of "leave 'er alone" .


While smoking a few cigarettes and eyeballing the bike later last night, I see that the carb is still moist. Hmm. Seems odd. I set a fan nearby and come back an hour later. Still wet. Double hmm. I grab a flashlight to see into the carb throat. While doin so, I notice the puddle at the plate is moving. Triple hmm. Gas is running like a stuck open float. Thats odd. The petcock is closed. Isnt it ? I go get my glasses and look at the petcock. Just so you know, when I have my glasses on its like my mind suddenly become clear. So does my eyesight. My brilliant deductive mind determines that in fact, NO, the petcock is not off. I had been kicking 'ol Sally like a Govt Mule for nothing. Sigh. Shut of the 'cock, pull the plugs, and leave the fan to dry up the carb.


So this morning, after running a few errands, I push Sally back onto the driveway. I look down and see the scars from yesterdays kick frenzy on the pavement. The stand has left many marks. A fresh charge on the battery, petcock ON this time, I give a couple of prime kicks. Key/choke on and kick. Nothing. Kick, nothing. Kick and a pop. Kick and fire! Yeehaw, its a runner ! Set the idle and listen for odd noises. Fresh engines have a certain "whir" that can be pleasant or alarming. No surprises so far. The wife comes out in her bath robe to see what the ruckus is. About 3 minutes in, I fiddle with the idle only for the bike to die. She wont start back up. Sally has the last word.
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Kicking Sally like a WHAT?

Good work.

Incidentally, the fingers are not supposed to be like that. I got one the same way at some point... who the fuck is tightening the bolts down hard enough to do that?
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Old 10-09-2019, 03:10 PM   #237
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Good work.

Incidentally, the fingers are not supposed to be like that. I got one the same way at some point... who the fuck is tightening the bolts down hard enough to do that?

Fingers ? Your talking about the old hub, right ? I have gone from "WTF ?" to "seems about right".


My dog has the nickname of "Reluctant Gentleman". Sally may be called the "Reluctant Lady".


BTW, found the first leak. front intake pushrod tube @ lifter block. New blocks vs. new tubes. Looks like the tube didnt push down into the block far enough. A little sanding around the tube flange and cross your fingers.
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Old 10-09-2019, 04:38 PM   #238
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Yeah, the hub fingers. I just never thought I'd see two hubs fucked up like that.

I had an abortion just like you did. My attitude progressed just like yours is.

Mine had coarse-thread bolts installed.

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Old 10-11-2019, 11:55 AM   #239
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I thought that a new basket and clutch/hub would solve all the transmission issues but not quite. After installing engine and then primary I discovered the sloppy basket/hub. I also noticed what might have been mainshaft wiggle. So the hope was to replace obvious shitty parts and see what we have. That being said, when I grab the belt and twist or pinch it between thumb and fingers I can see the rear chain move as the clutch/basket moves slightly towards front of bike. Its not just moving chain on either top or bottom but top and bottom.


And then there is the stuck carb float flooding the engine even with the petcock off. Bike on the lift I opened butterfly, shined a light and saw a river of gas sitting in the intake manifold. Had to lean the bike to drain it out. Just so everybody knows, its the dreaded "Shitty B Carb" that some people are so "fond" of.


So close and yet so far. Just like rehab. LOL
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I've never run a Competitor, so I don't know what that involves. I do know that with un-whupped parts, Big Fix rollers, and a Ram-Jet retainer, I have never run into a four-speed clutch I couldn't make buttery-smooth.
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