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Old 03-19-2019, 02:28 PM   #201
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Lower end at shop. Rebuilder says it could run as is, but couldn't answer for how long. I prefer to freshen it up and not worry. Rods are not factory, no surprise there. More will be revealed when he cracks it open.


Heads and jugs are getting a refresh as well.




Meanwhile....


Back to gas tanks. So I went and got the 3.5 Gal Ultima tanks. Nice fit, looked good. Full of welding slag and mineral oil. Only problem was they dont look anything like OG 3.5 splitters. Someone mentioned they would most likely be 4.2 gal and yep, too big.


So I scored a set of used aftermarket tanks. Look the part and have the swagger. Of course, same issue as the original Sally tanks. Poor fit. So after many cigarettes and a Redbull or two, out comes the anvil (14" piece of railroad track), Hammer, and welder. I straightened out the "Z" bend on lower, front mount on right tank to level things out a bit. Next up was shitty mold job at speedo ditch. It was rounded instead of a nice bend and could bee seen with dash cover on. I laid down a bunch of spot welds to even that portion out. Next up was centers along backbone. That looked like 10 miles of bad road. I scratched my head for a minute, lit up another ciggy and came up with a plan. Lets even the whole thing and straighten it up as much as possible.


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As you can see, the right tank took a dive at the end. May be 100 tacks to bring it up to match. Both tanks got the end/centers extended inward. Right side was a tack stack along seam. Left side got a filler strip and then beads along the length. Both centers at dash got the extendo/straighten job also. All will be covered with epoxy primer and the skim coat of filler.


That is all. Everyone can go back to scratching their balls. Or their dog. Or their dogs balls. Dammit, I miss Shovithead.
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Old 03-19-2019, 03:07 PM   #202
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Looks great my man, but I would want to dress that right tank down a little more and pressure test it, I know all too well how there could be a pinhole hiding in there and once you start making them pretty it's a real pain in your ass. That's the beauty and allure with these bikes, nothing ever quite seems to fit... I bought a sissy recently which was bent on a jig, perfect I hear you scream, nope. The support bracket was a mile out, had to use a G clamp and some serious love to make it fit!! all part of the endless fun.

I spoke to Shovit's wife recently she emailed me, was lovely to speak with her, but I also miss Russ a lot!
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Old 03-19-2019, 07:06 PM   #203
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Sorry if this is a stupid question. What was mineral oil doing in the first tanks you bought? Rust preventative or something? Good work, by the way, and good patience.
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Old 03-20-2019, 03:32 PM   #204
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I suppose the oil was a rust inhibitor. Its main function was to keep the slag from rattling.


The thought occurred to me to chop the Ultima tanks. That way I could get that shit out of there. The stumbling block was keeping the dash. As the tanks moved inward, the backbone area would be static. Tank diameter decreases and "backing plate" get trimmed. Too much of the "little bit here, little bit there". I would rather do 1000 tack welds than make a mistake and toss a set of tanks.
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Old 03-21-2019, 10:55 AM   #205
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Magnet retrieval tool will get the slag.
https://www.amazon.com/magnetic-retr...etrieving+tool
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Old 03-22-2019, 05:52 PM   #206
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Well done! You are going to make an honest gal out of Sally!
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Old 03-22-2019, 07:42 PM   #207
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We should change the name of this thread to something grandiose like "The Redemption of 2000's Cool Guy Chopper Shop Idiocy - There is Hope" or some shit.

Nice work. I admire your persistence.

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Old 03-23-2019, 12:09 AM   #208
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I doubt you would be surprised how many popular bike builders there are who do shit work.
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Old 03-23-2019, 07:25 AM   #209
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We should change the name of this thread to something grandiose like "The Redemption of 2000's Cool Guy Chopper Shop Idiocy - There is Hope" or some shit.

Nice work. I admire your persistence.

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I thought "Slaughterhouse Sally" was kind of dramatic. Maybe " Pile of shit that's marginally less shitty" is appropriate.
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Old 03-30-2019, 08:35 AM   #210
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Good news. Lower end isnt bad. Some minor flywheel alignment issues along with jugs that weren't re-torqued is the reason for teardown.


Found good:


New cam, J grind
Factory timing gears in good shape
S&S breather gear, new

Oil pump w/ fresh gears in good shape




Found bad:


New aftermarket lifters +.005 scored badly (poor bore job in blocks)
Breather bore tight
Case bolts w/ mis-matched hardware. 1 had to be cut off




Im glad I decided to have it pulled apart. Peace of mind.
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Old 03-30-2019, 11:27 AM   #211
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I love the J cam and hope you do, too. Solid lifters or juice?

Is the breather gear a standard one or the reed-style?

Doing good work on this, man. It's a slog. I've been there. But it feels fucking great when you lick it and you know every nut and bolt on it. That's been beaten into me by a number of the guys on the board.

It's worth it.
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Old 03-30-2019, 06:48 PM   #212
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I will be running BMO hydro lifters. Dave is only making a few at a time and I caught him when he was about to do a couple of sets. IMO the best out there.

Breather is standard style





I'm tired of the "Fuck it, run it" mentality. In the past I would have beat this like a Gov't Mule and repaired as needed. I am at the point where fiddling with this and fucking with that is getting old. Do it right or sell it to someone who will.
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You've got a great attitude, Tater.

I'd be permanently sour if I were in the same boat.

I ran a J cam in my 74" shovel for a long time. Silky smooth running.

Breather bore tight is way better than loose. Boring for oversize is a hassle. Consider a reed valve as was mentioned. (p.s. - i've never tried one)

If you're buying lifters and blocks, I can't say enough about how great the Velva-Touch set has treated me. Been running the same set for 18 years now. Even had a rocker failure and they were unharmed. Bullet proof. Worth the money.

Slaughterhouse Sally is a great name.

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Old 04-18-2019, 05:52 PM   #214
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So here we are, a month later and still waiting on short block. Top end at machinist for 3 weeks also. Now I have tins (Well, 2 tanks and a plastic fender) at the painter. He claims a start date of "early next week". We'll see how that goes.


I have a suspicion that all the parts are gonna come in at the same time. Might be a good idea to clean the garage and make room for everything.




Meanwhile, I'm sitting on the rolling stool, smoking cigs, staring at the roller. With time to kill, the mind wanders. This time it wandered to the clutch pressure plate. Its a cheapo taiwan job. I wasnt sure if its aluminum or die-cast zinc. Only one way to know for sure. So I dig out an old (I mean OLD) can of Mothers mag polish. This can had a skin on top about a quarter of an inch thick. Fuck it, stir it up and give it a go. Got a little shine going. I decided the plate was needing a bit more. Green scrub pad and 3 minutes later the crust is off. Back to the polish. I think I had a total of 15 minutes into it and she looks really good.




I then sit back, light up another cig and admire my work. " Damn, that was easy ", I said out loud. Then the eyes wander to the forks. Ah, fuck. Here we go again. So I fetch another rag/towel combo and off we go. Had some stains at the weep hole on the brake backing plate that didnt want to disappear so easily. Also had a nasty black mark that looked like some dumbass run up on something. I look around and come up with a used half-sheet of 1000 grit wet/dry sandpaper. Good enough for for polishing paint, should be good on alum. With a good spit onto the paper, I lightly sand out the stain. Hit it with the polish and that takes on a shine as well. Ol' Sally is a dirty legged bitch. So the lowers get the shinola also. The 1000 grit paper takes out the majority of minor scratches. Less that 1 hour into the forks.



Here is the porn in no particular order








If you look thru the wheel you get the before and after.



Before shot.

The scratch that got away. Too deep to get with the sandpaper. And besides, it matches the other glaring examples of buffoonery.






Now I know there may be 1 or 2 of you that will bemoan the fact that the "patina" is now gone. I say this...there is a difference between patina and neglect. I did not use any machines to clean the brightworks at all. Just a crusty can of polish, a bit of spit covered sandpaper and a towel. Trust me, there is still a whole lot of Sally going on here.
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Old 07-14-2019, 11:06 AM   #215
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Looks like the engine will be coming home next week. Sheesh...its only been 4 months since I dropped it off. Then again, the tins have been at the painters for 2 months.


The Pan/Shov idea has been shelved. I found a set of outside oiler Pan heads that are in good shape. Altho they had a few helicoils on the cover rails backing out that left them looking a bit like Buckwheat from the "Little Rascals". Other than that they looked as if they had only been reworked once according to the shop. 1 funky exhaust spigot that I think may fly "as-is".


Meanwhile, I knew the kicker shaft was a bit wobbly. Black Friday of last year netted a set of Baker kick gears for 1/2 the list price so that gets addressed also. I'm glad I pulled the kick cover off. Bushing on inner gear was sloppy and kick shaft bushings are supper shitty. Clutch release shaft is aftermarket and was not able to locate e-clip. May be in the drain belly of transmission. Throwout finger looks like a cheapo and need replacement also.
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Old 08-30-2019, 04:49 PM   #216
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Alright, alright, alright.


After a brief intermission of waiting for others to get it together, I am getting it together.



As it sits...



Kick cover got the once over. Then the twice over. As mentioned before, Baker kick gears installed. Throw out finger looked a bit fugly.



Was replaced by supposed NOS finger. While trying to stab cover,TO bearing, and rod thru mainshaft and fumbling for awhile, I thought "there must be a better way". There is...



That little tit on the end of the rod would make the whole set-up alot easier to manage. The one pictured got too pricey on the auction site for me, so I let it go. Oh, well. Just gotta work with what you got. No tits for me.


I received engine like this...





You may be able to see 2 cracked screw bosses on bottom. Warranty time. Back to builder. Some "lava"( as Grub would say) and fresh wrinkle, she is good to go.
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I see nothing. Glad you're back on the case, though, ossifer.
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very nice
What would annoy me is, did cover mounter not realise he cracked bosses.(slapdash)
or thinks no worries mug owner won't notice.
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very nice
What would annoy me is, did cover mounter not realise he cracked bosses.(slapdash)
or thinks no worries mug owner won't notice.

He claims " I thought it was mushy like it might be stripped, so I stopped."
All good, got taken care of. Ah, Sally. She be a finicky little hussy.
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Story time...

Its was around September 2018 when I discovered the flaking aluminum around the intake seat of OG heads. Local ol timers said to run it. New timers ran for the hills. Our own Shovithead said he could look them over and repair or help sell them to offset the cost of replacements. So, off they went to Florida.

At that point Russ and I began an electronic relationship, sending pics of wives, bikes, and what not. No mention of how sick he had become. I waited patiently for work to begin on heads. Russ had 1 project ahead of me and would get to them soon. Our contact became less frequent. It would take weeks to get any feedback from Russ and then it would be a few words. He told me of his illness and he said he would get to my junk as soon as things were better. Then nothing. Message after message went unanswered.

Finally someone broke the news about his death. Fuck. No, really. Fuck. Im miss that bastard and his funny way of getting a point across.


Heads were in Purgatory for a while. So thats when the idea of Pan/Shovel got started. Its that or find "outie" heads in good shape. I beat the bushes for Pan heads. High priced shit that wasnt any better than the shit that was waiting in Fla. Our own corbis820 from JJ stepped in and delivered the heads back to me.



By that time I had already scored some decent heads. 6 months of searching and saying no, no, no....OK. So Shovel top end sits on the shelf, waiting for another day.
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