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Old 05-28-2018, 12:09 PM   #121
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I made up a kit today to allow me to make a radiator hanger. I was in two minds whether to hang it at the front but that sure is the best place to be cooling it. Bottom hanger to follow.





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You will need to put another cap up by the head. Your rad cap is not the highest point in the cooling system where installed. Looks good though, real clean.
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Hey Jaws, there was a lot of head scratching in the garage over the weekend. Infact I may have worn a part bald!

Thanks for the heads up about the water level, should have seen that!

It may not stay at that level but I have so many things to bolt on to this thing including the intercooler, it's just hard to see what goes where until you start fixing stuff on.

If it stays there though, I'll figure something out!

Thanks for keeping an eye on me, if I'm not kept on a tight lead things could go crazy!
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Dan do Jaws a favor and extend that front end 20 over
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Old 05-29-2018, 06:59 PM   #125
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...if I'm not kept on a tight lead things could go crazy!

This is already one of the craziest builds I’ve seen on this board...more please. And no extended breaks this time - your other Triumph is a museum piece now, there’s no excuse.
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Keeping the radiator low is a good thing as it is a transfer vehicle from air to water, not air to air, meaning if the entire thing is not full of water then it is not as efficient as it could be. Cap that cap and put a remote expansion tank and add a filler neck along with a bleeder to be at the highest points....

Remember that bike position can also play a huge part in the filling and burping of a cooling system. Design to function and if can....form for frosting on the cake.
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Old 05-30-2018, 02:17 PM   #127
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Dan do Jaws a favor and extend that front end 20 over
Now there would be an interesting look!

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This is already one of the craziest builds I’ve seen on this board...more please. And no extended breaks this time - your other Triumph is a museum piece now, there’s no excuse.
Hey Cookie, I will take that as a compliment and pull my finger out of my arse. To be honest what with the two kids and my wife, life is pretty busy and that's not a complaint it just takes time away. A guy asked me about building him a bike and I said I didn't have the time. He said would it help if he paid more but more money doesn't buy me more that 24 hours in the day. Anyway, who needs money when I will probably win the lottery this week!

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Keeping the radiator low is a good thing as it is a transfer vehicle from air to water, not air to air, meaning if the entire thing is not full of water then it is not as efficient as it could be. Cap that cap and put a remote expansion tank and add a filler neck along with a bleeder to be at the highest points.
Cool, I have a crazy idea about what to do with this now thanks again Jaws for the heads up!
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If it stays there though, I'll figure something out!
Don't overcomplicate it. You can simply put a bleed port farther north, or just use a pressurized coolant tank like many modern cars do.
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Old 05-31-2018, 03:00 PM   #129
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Don't overcomplicate it. You can simply put a bleed port farther north, or just use a pressurized coolant tank like many modern cars do.
This is a great idea Liam, thanks. I will definitely a good option for me and would be easy to do.

This is a complicated build for me but I do like that, if it wasn't a challenge for me it would also be over too quick and the build part is always great fun.
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Remember you get 3* for every PSI in the cooling system. If you run mostly water the boiling point is 212*. A 10# cap will give you 30* over. The limiting factor would be the max psi your system can hold including but not limited to the cap. The expansion tank allows room for movement for coollant expansion. No room and it will push past the caps psi but not actually be boiling over. It will make room and find its own “level”. Dont let any part of the radiator be above the “level”.
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The expansion tank allows room for movement for coollant expansion. No room and it will push past the caps psi but not actually be boiling over. It will make room and find its own “level”. Dont let any part of the radiator be above the “level”.
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^^^^ding ding ding!!! Winner!

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Now to hide it on the bike in a functional place..... lol
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Old 06-01-2018, 06:31 AM   #134
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^Not my fucking problem.

In seriousness, I agree, but there might be one of these that could hide under a fuel tank or something, or maybe bolt up to a fork leg.

Seriously, this shit in general is what makes liquid-cooled bikes hard to pretty up. I'm sure Dan has some tricks up his sleeve, and if he doesn't... well, he'll figure it out. This ain't his first rodeo.
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Now I'm not saying that expansion tank is ugly but I saw someone last night who looked just like that. I nearly spat my beer out!

Thanks for the input guys and I totally get the expansion tank idea but I just can't see where I would hide something like that. This bike will be naked so nowhere to hide. The tank runs very close to the rocker cover and the blower so no room there.

I am kind of thinking that I could run a filler extension up and through the edge of the tank and have a blanking plate to hide the rad cap.

I will really know how much closer I can get the rad when I get the fan for it. Extra tubing for the water won't look out of place because I will have the tubing for the intercooler running around also.

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Thanks Liam, no pressure there then! But really I think that pretty is not the work to use but unique or aggressive. I am getting a feeling that this would fit right into a Mad Max film.

I've been in South Wales all weekend helping my son move flat so nothing done, I have a few weekends free so will crack the whip.

Cheers, Dan.
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Just moving the radiator up till the cap is higher than the engine, is the simple answer. Then you could go with out a expansion tank.
If there is a hose barb coming out of the radiator just under the cap, you could run a expansion recovery tank. You could then purge the air by raising the front of the bike and maintaining a coolant level in the recovery tank. Heat/cool cycles would then just move coolant to and from the tank. 1/2 pint would likely do.
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You can build a tank as long as it meets capacity in any shape you want.....

For reference roughly 1*C = 1.0002 expansion rate.

Figure your total volume needed of your system without the tank and build "tank" to handle the extra volume from expansion. Allow for some extra room and the pressure relief cap.

You get the idea..
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Old 06-04-2018, 02:10 PM   #139
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Hey Joe, if I was able to move the radiator above the level of the engine I would have already done that. The thing is that currently it would interfere with the steering. All the fun of designing on the bench.

When I get the rad fan I will be able to see if I can move the rad further in and that will allow me to move if higher also.

Jaws, thanks for the equation, I kind of like the idea of fabricating my own expansion tank should I need to.

I'll update as soon as I can.
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would an expansion tank in a cafe type rear seat cowl be to far away ?
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