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Old 11-30-2011, 04:01 PM   #1
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I'm finally working on my Shovel after a couple MAJOR road blocks on the way. I bought a running bike with a 73 FL frame and 80" Shovel and cow pie trans out of a 79 FXEF and rode it for a summer. It ran good but wasn't what I wanted.I was looking for a nimble around town machine so I thought I put the powertrain into a light bike. So... I bought a new Maximum Metalworks rigid frame,narrow glide,new sporty tank,21" wheel and a few other odds and ends. Work got REALLY busy so I thought I'd have guy I met on here thats 2hrs south of me do some fab work and get it a roller for me because I never had the time to touch it. It was good at first but progress came to a hault and the fab work was very poor and VERY unsafe. He dinged me $3500 for a few parts and shitty welding that I broke off with a rubber hammer and cresent wrench.Again work got busy and the bike sat all summer so I found another "builder" this time 2.5 hrs north of me to get things going...9 months and $3300,and every excuse in the book I picked the bike back up with nothing done too it other than some cheesy fender mounts that I broke off by hand and NO refund on my money. He says he messed up but he'll get my money back to me when he wants.... Anyways sorry for the sob story but I thought I'd get it off my chest due to both these "builders" being members on here.

I'm going to get this bike built if it kills me!!! haha
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Old 11-30-2011, 04:30 PM   #2
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The motor and trans were rebuilt a couple years and no miles before I bought the bike but it had been sitting and some leaks had formed. I thought I'd re gasket the motor and trans while it was out so I dug into into it....
Needed guides,seats,springs,valves,jugs,pistons,and a mainshaft in the trans. It was just like new.... I had a local Harley guru named Zeke split the cases,fix the stripped timing plug that was JB welded,check the bottom end and resassemble the bottom end. He fitted it with forged pistons(9:1) new jugs and a J grind cam. My old man gave me a hand with the wore out heads. We put in new seats,guides,springs,Black Tulip valves and new keepers and retainers. Everything is new . Zeke freshened my trans with a new mainshaft,repaired the drain plug that had a rubber plug shoved in it and gaskets. Now I'm ready to roll on.
I'm taking my roller to Zeke's place Friday so we can set the motor and trans in and I can get a few pointers from him on alignment then its time for mounting the rear fender and oil tank.
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Some work done by the previous "Builders"
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you sure the guy didn't use solder by accident haha....fuck I'd be embarrassed to say I did those welds.

Rest of it is looking great though. Oughta be a blast.
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do it your self man..take ur time and get it right..
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Old 11-30-2011, 05:04 PM   #7
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Shameful.
Those responsible should have their welders confiscated.

Bright side, I bet you could knock those welds off with a chisel pretty easily.
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Old 11-30-2011, 05:08 PM   #8
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I'm thinking of narrowing this tank but doing 1.5" at the bottom and .5" at the top. What do you guys think? Leave it,narrow it evenly or do the 1.5" to .5" taper?
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Old 11-30-2011, 05:11 PM   #9
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Shameful.
Those responsible should have their welders confiscated.

Bright side, I bet you could knock those welds off with a chisel pretty easily.

I broke them off by hand....including the rear master cylinder bracket
It just amazes me that they can do this and get away with it. They lied about so much is blew me away. I work hard for my money and they had no problem taking it for nothing. I was trusting but thats my downfall now
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If you have the skills to narrow that tank you could definitely weld on that bike. Of course you should narrow that tank, if you don't like it you can always slap on another,
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If you have the skills to narrow that tank you could definitely weld on that bike. Of course you should narrow that tank, if you don't like it you can always slap on another,

I have the skills along with a good buddy of mine but we both work in the oil & gas industry and spare time hard to come by. I'm going to do everything myself from now on even if it takes longer.
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I'm thinking of narrowing this tank but doing 1.5" at the bottom and .5" at the top. What do you guys think? Leave it,narrow it evenly or do the 1.5" to .5" taper?
I like narrowed tanks and I say do it, but you might want to skinny up anything else you can, like that license plate bracket. As far as which way to do it, I vote for evenly.
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Old 11-30-2011, 05:37 PM   #13
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Sorry for your troubles man. It sucks when you have to farm shit out. Lotsa people talk a good game, but few actually play one. Proper welding is a Skill, not something everbody can do just because they bought a welder and read a thread.

Hope you can find the time to finish your scooter your way. Good Luck

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I like narrowed tanks and I say do it, but you might want to skinny up anything else you can, like that license plate bracket. As far as which way to do it, I vote for evenly.

I agree on the plate bracket. A buddy and I built it but I'm not sure I'm sold on it. It doesnt look to stick out as bad when the trans and clutch are it. I will post more pics Friday when i have the motor and trans in. I think I'll narrow the tank evenly. Maybe 2"-2.5" ? I still want to be able to make some miles between gas staions so I'm unsure
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I agree on the plate bracket. A buddy and I built it but I'm not sure I'm sold on it. It doesnt look to stick out as bad when the trans and clutch are it. I will post more pics Friday when i have the motor and trans in. I think I'll narrow the tank evenly. Maybe 2"-2.5" ? I still want to be able to make some miles between gas staions so I'm unsure
Sounds like a plan, keep us posted.
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Old 11-30-2011, 06:39 PM   #16
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Sounds like your up in ft Mac. I just bring my stuff to work and do it there. I could probably dig up a sporty tank or two if it would fit your project a bit better
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Look's to me like he took welding lessons from a muddobber !
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Old 11-30-2011, 07:13 PM   #18
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man i think you could throw gum at those welds and they would break. Looking good on the build can't wait to see it finished.
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It takes a lot of practice and some natural ability to turn out quality work. It seems to work out a lot better if you learn by working on your own stuff or working on your friends stuff for free. But in all fairness, Im sure there are two sides to this story too. Good Luck on your build.

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Old 11-30-2011, 08:41 PM   #20
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what bars are those?
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But in all fairness, Im sure there are two sides to this story too. Good Luck on your build.
Close to 7 g's for garbage work, with pictures as proof, and there's a second side of the story worth considering? Come on, man.

Lesson 1. Don't tell people what you do for work, because it sounds like you got gouged due to your ability to earn good money.

Lesson 2. Get to know your internet builders by digging into their old posts/threads. Whiners and BS artists are easy to sniff out...
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Don't let the previous 'builders" do the tank for you.
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Name names please. Anyone doing that shitty of work and charging you $7k needs to be called out.
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It takes a lot of practice and some natural ability to turn out quality work. It seems to work out a lot better if you learn by working on your own stuff or working on your friends stuff for free. But in all fairness, Im sure there are two sides to this story too. Good Luck on your build.

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I know what your saying but if I had the time then I would have but I DIDN'T so that's why I had the work done. There are two sides to every story but I can go on with more pictures,emails,texts and signed contracts that show I got screwed. So I would think its a pretty clear story.
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Name names please. Anyone doing that shitty of work and charging you $7k needs to be called out.
I will in time Trent. The latest guy owes me $3300 and claims he is going to pay it all back.......I'll give him the benefit of the doubt for a short time. I could really use the cash back for the build. My race car needs a bunch of parts over the winter so the bike comes second
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After seeing those photos, I'd like to hear the welder's side of the story.
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what bars are those?
Front Street Cycle bars,fender and oil tank
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Sounds like your up in ft Mac. I just bring my stuff to work and do it there. I could probably dig up a sporty tank or two if it would fit your project a bit better

No I'm in central Alberta. 1hr east of Red Deer. I worked up in Ft Mac when I was just out of school. I try to stay out of the north country if I can.
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Dude that blows! Sorry to see the bad job that asshat did! Put their names up, that is an entire nice bike you paid out.
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Dude, you need to post that name NOW. You got screwed no doubt about it, but protecting them makes no sence.
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Holy cow that's horrible.
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Noodelz and Blackcrown ?
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Holy popcorn welds batman!
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After seeing those photos, I'd like to hear the welder's side of the story.
What, "I wuz shitfaced"?

Seriously, the first 2 of those weld photos show faults that would be obvious to a first-week welding student. NOBODY claiming to be a fabricator should ever let something like that out of his shop.

Some asshat laid that, looked at it, and said "fuck it." End of discussion.


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I think the WELDOR and The WELDER were both fucked up. Seriously I don't think I could weld that fucked up if I tried. His machine has as many issues as he does.
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Just got home with my bike after a very productive Friday! Took the roller over to my buddy Zeke's shop to set the motor and trans in after the rebuild on both. Everything slid in nice and Zeke was a ton of help with getting the odds and ends taken care of that I would have missed. I still need to get a bunch of hardware and clutch parts but its getting ordered up next week. Zeke is a vintage Harley guru and specializes in Shovel and older.He's a VERY cool guy that lives and breathes vintage bikes.Currently he is in the middle of restoring a 35 Servicar.Here are some pics of my bike and Zeke's 35 Servicar,Knuck,38 Flathead chopper with Indian leaf springer and 79 FLH with side car. I didn't get any pics of his rigid Pan chopper that he rides 1000's of miles at a time.
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Spooky welds but it's looking good now.

After that guy pays you back, tell him to open the valve on the gas bottle.
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Spooky welds but it's looking good now.

After that guy pays you back, tell him to open the valve on the gas bottle.
I'd say it makes me go red when I see those pics!!!
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Old 12-05-2011, 09:38 AM   #40
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I made a bit more progress on the weekend with mockup. I need to pickup some more hardware. This might be a rookie question but should I use fine thread hardware for motor/trans mounting bolts? Also I was going to powdercoat the frame but now I'm leaning towards paint. Pro's and cons?
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I would say fine. OEM is fine, at least for tranny plate and rear motor mount.
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I'd go with paint. Easier to fix and much easier to remove if you want to later.
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I would say fine. OEM is fine, at least for tranny plate and rear motor mount.
Sounds good. That's what I was thinking but thought I'd ask. Nylocks or just a bit of blue locktite?
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Is the front end going to stay that short? The bike has a really nice stance.
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Studs should be fine, rear plate mount holes should be fine, 5th mount to the tranny (non stud mount) should take a course bolt, then I run fine bolts for front plate mount. I run nylocks on the studs and bolts that take them.
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Is the front end going to stay that short? The bike has a really nice stance.
Yes I want to get it as low as a can. I might end up sending the forks out to be shortened but might try cutting the springs to see how low I can go with that. It's not going to have much travel either way so I'm not sure.
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Old 12-08-2011, 07:33 PM   #47
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My tank had a flat bottom and tunnel put in it by one of the prior "builders" but was really poorly done so I decided to cut it out and narrow it 1" to start. I might go more its just tacked up for now
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bolted on a new air cleaner too. A local guy builds them with a blank rear plate so you can drill and mount them for any carb.
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Making progress with the bike finally after the holidays. I will post pics tonight.I had to build new rear axle Adjusters/spacers to make my axle length work. I used aluminum instead of steel but made the OD a but bigger so there is a bit more material where the 3/8" slots are for the adjustment bolts. Should I have used steel?
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Welding and grinding..... Its coming out nice it should only need a skim of filler
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I was using one of those floor jack style bike lifts until I came into the garage to find that my bike had fell off. Luckily nothing was damaged but I thought better safe than sorry so I bought a new lift today
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Looking good. I like powder coat if the frame is going to be black, tuff and hard to chip.

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Looking good. I like powder coat if the frame is going to be black, tuff and hard to chip.

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Thanks! I'm going to do the frame in gloss black powder and the tins will be painted orange with heavy flake. The fender is from Front Street Cycle along with the bars and oil tank
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leave it, it looks fine right now!
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I'm trying to find a kick stand that will work with how low the bike is. My frame has forward mounts so I was hoping to mount a stand off one of them
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Some more parts showed up Friday from Bung King. Motor mount,vented gas cap,and 3/8" chromoly heim ends. Great guys to deal with and their builder parts are top notch in my opinion. Time to get something done this weekend
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I still havn't found anything that I would use. Just a couple billet alum stands that I would look like shit on there. Any ideas?
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Can't make out too much detail from the pic I looked at, but it may be helpful to mock up the left side peg & controls, then see if a simple L-shaped kickstand could be bent up and installed; your bike is low enough that a foot that pivots out on the same plane as the bottom frame rail should work.
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I tried the stock stand and it's way too long and I think if I shorten it and give it a bend it's going to hit the primary in the up position. I'll mess around with it tonight. I found a nice stand from Lock Baker that's made out to look like a leaf spring but its $350 and that's too rich for this guy
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A torch and a six-pack should make things align...
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Also, nice work on the tank. Bike's looking killer, sir.
First guy was Blackcrown/Chris Potter and second was Noodelz/Blair Watson/No Shame Customs on here. Stay clear!!!!



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Bike is looking good man nice work. I sure hope you get your money back or something.
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Thanks. Yes I hope to get my money back but it's been two months and still every excuse under the sun why he doesnt have it. Bunch of bullshit!!!!
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Nice job on the tank. That shovel is looking nice!

Bummer that you got jammed up on having another builder do work on your bike, you seem to be doing just fine on your own. Slow and steady wins the race when you're building your own bike.
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I need to order a new rear sprocket because the one on my rim is pretty beat up. I was wondering on gearing. Current rear is 51 tooth and trans sprocket is 24 tooth. I have a new 26 tooth also on the shelf. It's a light bike so maybe gear it for the highway so it's not screaming with the 4 speed? What do you guys think?
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I run 49 rear/24 tranny and it's the perfect combo for top and bottom. If you wanna gear it for all highway put that 26 on with a shorter sprocket and you'll cruise in the 80 MPH's no problem. Mine use to with that set up anyways, just was a dog outta the hole. All the stock sprocket 51 tooth guys are loving the 25 tooth tranny gear. Also your crank pulley size should be factored in too.
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Sorry I messed up my rear is a 48. I'll count the engine/crank pulley
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I'd stick with the 24 unless you really wanna get at it on the highway then the 26 would work. It was nice when I was set up 48/26 and would ride with more modern bikes with fancy things like a gear or two above 4th but fuck them I say.
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I'm running a BDL 1.5" 8mm primary belt drive with 41 front and 61 rear pulleys.

I think thats what I will do I'll stick with the 24 front sprocket and order a 48 rear. Should I just stay with steel or go with the aluminum rear?
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Nice job on the tank. That shovel is looking nice!

Bummer that you got jammed up on having another builder do work on your bike, you seem to be doing just fine on your own. Slow and steady wins the race when you're building your own bike.
Thats for sure I'm getting my garage more setup for working on bike stuff so I'm going to tackle everything possible myself and get this thing done. Its amazing how much more a guy gets done when when you are setup for it. One downfall is my race car gets no time spent on it so I might be late starting the season but I think it will be worth it
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I need to pickup a battery so I can start building a box for it. Its going to be kick only but I guess I could go with a big enough battery that would work for electric start if I wanted to later on. What size and brand do you guys recommend?
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disgusting!!!!!!!!!!!!! they could get somebody hurt or worse.
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disgusting!!!!!!!!!!!!! they could get somebody hurt or worse.
Thats what pissed me off about the whole deal. They would have just ground the welds down and powdercoated and I would have been the one eating the dirt!! I still have not got my $3300 deposit back....dirtbag
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I keep looking at the front end. I'm tempted to change my wide springer for a tube front. Whole bike looks great. How much under is it?
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If you do, PM me. I want your springer.
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3 months and still don't have any of my $3300 deposit back from Noodelz/ Blair Watson and now he won't return my calls,emails,or texts!!! Stay away from this thief !!!! Just a warning I don't want anyone else ripped off
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a couple of buddies and some toys should fix that problem if you ask me. pretty sure he has som ecash stashed somewhere either that or he owes you a bike or project that he has lying around to compensate for your losses.
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"NO SHAME" customs. Ironic choice of business names. .

I welded a simple piece of 3/8 round stock off the bottom frame rail. Put a rubber bumper on the end of it that would meet the kickstand .. The kickstand actually closed under the belt and i welded a small hook on the end so you could grab it with your foot to extend it. Total cost a few bucks but you could go the $350 route

Not sure if that will work for your application and pretty low tech ..just throwing it out there

Build is looking good man keep posting.

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i don't see what the other side of the story could be, as far as the builders in question explaining their work. the welds were terrible, not just terrible looking which is enough to be pissed about , but how friggin unsafe is that? they should not be marketing themselves as welders. they are skanks, f..k them!!! thats a lot of cash to steal from someone!
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Ya I'm pretty pissed over the whole deal. It's bad enough he took my money and wasted my time but now I have to hunt him down to get my money back. He has every excuse in the book and I don't doubt he is having a rough go in life but I'm done giving a shit we all have shit times in our life's. Bottom line he owes me money and knows it.
Sorry for the rant but f$&ck I'm mad!!
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"NO SHAME" customs. Ironic choice of business names. .

I welded a simple piece of 3/8 round stock off the bottom frame rail. Put a rubber bumper on the end of it that would meet the kickstand .. The kickstand actually closed under the belt and i welded a small hook on the end so you could grab it with your foot to extend it. Total cost a few bucks but you could go the $350 route!

Not sure if that will work for your application and pretty low tech ..just throwing it out there

Build is looking good man keep posting.
Good idea I might give that a try!
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Wow, just wow. That anyone could "weld" like that and pass it off for use on someone's motorcycle frame just blows my mind. (I assume this is your bike) : They are still using your bike to promote their services on their blog:
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Wow, just wow. That anyone could "weld" like that and pass it off for use on someone's motorcycle frame just blows my mind. (I assume this is your bike) : They are still using your bike to promote their services on their blog:
http://noodelzschtuff.blogspot.com/2...c-journey.html

No shame indeed.
Ya its my bike and i paid him money to weld that shit....I wonder why he doesn't post pictures of his welding skills?????
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Not much for progress the last couple weeks. My wife and I had our first kid and he takes up most of my time

I did get the pipes on after trying a couple different sets. I might wrap the front pipe by the mag and the rear where my leg is close too
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tmac, I build my bikes low also, in fact if ya can roll over a pack of cigs on its side and not knock it over, its to high, lol. anyway, what i have found is if ya use a stock kick stand but put a wedge between it and the mount on the frame, ya get the lean ya need and the kick stand isnt draggin or up in the primary. I think Drag or someone sells these now, but I make my own.
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If it makes ya feel any better, bought a Paugcho hard tail a coupla years ago for a hot rod project, ordered a 35 digree neck but wasent close to being right so took it to a old friend of mine to cut it off and strech it out to where it needed to be. so he calls me up to come look at it and when i get there he starts in on what a shit job they did on the frame.... neck was 1/4" out to the left, left rear top leg was 1/8" lower and 1/8" back from the right, etc....
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tmac, I build my bikes low also, in fact if ya can roll over a pack of cigs on its side and not knock it over, its to high, lol. anyway, what i have found is if ya use a stock kick stand but put a wedge between it and the mount on the frame, ya get the lean ya need and the kick stand isnt draggin or up in the primary. I think Drag or someone sells these now, but I make my own.
I love low bikes also!! Nothing looks better in my opinion...haha I picked up one of those wedges last week I'm going to try it tonight.
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i use a stock sporty kickstand mounted mid way under my open 1 1/2.up is just behind the clutch.tab made welded to frame to make it easy to find to put it dwn.pics in here in the finished thread.VVVVVVVV

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I'm making a bit more progress.. Almost finished the fab work then its off for powercoat and paint
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That looks killer!! Is your fender internally struted or you going to make a sissy bar?
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Yes the fender is internally struted I will post some pictures. The fender mounts are not done in that picture.

Yes all those welds were ground off. I spent hours repairing my brand new parts that they decided to weld like that on
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a couple of buddies and some toys should fix that problem if you ask me. pretty sure he has som ecash stashed somewhere either that or he owes you a bike or project that he has lying around to compensate for your losses.
^^^^^I am in total agreement!!!^^^^^^^If you know where he works, you can find where he lives.....first try it "civil"..not sure how the legal process is up there, but it may be worth a try especially if you have a signed contract as you said. Then again, waiting for him at his front steps of his house as he comes home may get the point across a whole lot faster!

I have had my share of "being a nice guy" and have had people take my kindness for weakness. Tried to do it "civil"...it just got me to the point that I just wanted to forget it and move on...

Besides all that, the bike looks great...it is the same route i am taking with my shovel....little different tank though...

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Hey guys! Sorry for the lack of updates. It's been a busy summer so garage time has been slim. All the fab work and final welding is finished and I'm really happy with the out come. My buddy painted the tins with poison ivy green with gold flames with heavy flake. I'll post some pictures of the tins tonight I can't attach the pics from my iPhone. My dads buddy owns a powder coat shop and is going to coat the frame and misc parts for me next week. I'm having trouble deciding on colors for that though. This is what I'm thinking...let me know what you guys think

Frame,batt box,motor mount- gloss black

Primary plate,magneto cone,fork lowers,trees,rocker covers-gun metal grey
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hey that gunmetal blue is pretty cool too, your bike is looking awesome keep us posted
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I'm drilling some holes and fishing some mig wire through the frame to pull the wiring through later. Good idea?

Also other than black "zip Ties" what are you guys using to keep cables and wires from moving around too much? I don't like the look of the plastic ties but I'm not sure what else to use in a couple spots
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Hey guys! Sorry for the lack of updates. It's been a busy summer so garage time has been slim. All the fab work and final welding is finished and I'm really happy with the out come. My buddy painted the tins with poison ivy green with gold flames with heavy flake. I'll post some pictures of the tins tonight I can't attach the pics from my iPhone. My dads buddy owns a powder coat shop and is going to coat the frame and misc parts for me next week. I'm having trouble deciding on colors for that though. This is what I'm thinking...let me know what you guys think

Frame,batt box,motor mount- gloss black

Primary plate,magneto cone,fork lowers,trees,rocker covers-gun metal grey

I decided on titanium grey instead of the gun metal it's a little lighter shade and should go good with the dark tins.
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Back when, I wired a bike like that, through the frame. Looked clean as hell but, when a wire shorted, burnt everything up. Rewired it in cloth heat sheild on the out side and have since.
On the zip ties, I don't remember now (this gettin old shit sucks) but, one of the jap bike makers used a crome clip that went around the frame and cables, I'd get them and use them to hold the wire lume. Now days, most of the production co's use a plastic holder that pops in a hole in the frame.
BTW, lookin good!
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do it your self man..take ur time and get it right..
Couldn't have said it any better, its taken me a lot longer but Jesus H those welds look like total shit. The nerve of somebody charging for it would probably have me in jail before the night was done.
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Back when, I wired a bike like that, through the frame. Looked clean as hell but, when a wire shorted, burnt everything up. Rewired it in cloth heat sheild on the out side and have since.
On the zip ties, I don't remember now (this gettin old shit sucks) but, one of the jap bike makers used a crome clip that went around the frame and cables, I'd get them and use them to hold the wire lume. Now days, most of the production co's use a plastic holder that pops in a hole in the frame.
BTW, lookin good!

Thanks! I'll do some digging on some clips to use
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Bitchin bike man! Coming along good!

Where did you get your mid controls? Anymore closeup pics?

I wanna build a set for my shovel this winter
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Thank you I'll get some more pics for you guys. The mids I bought off a guy on EBay. They are nice but I wish I would have built something a little less modern looking. I bead blasted them so they don't look like machined billet.
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Dang. I think I have a set of cast mids laying on the floor of my shop. lol.
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Dang. I think I have a set of cast mids laying on the floor of my shop. lol.
Cast alum? Factory HD peice? I have a FX brake side mid but tried to build the shift side but didn't like how it turned out. I was surfin EBay one night and found the aluminum ones. They are cut out of 6061 flat plate and are built really well so I hope the work good
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Alum. Off of a later-ish model sporty, looks like.

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You can also get rubber straps to secure your wiring...and they won't scratch your paint.
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You can also get rubber straps to secure your wiring...and they won't scratch your paint.

Good idea is there anyplace in Calgary to buy some?
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Care for those mids? If so, hit me via PM.
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[QUOTE]Good idea is there anyplace in Calgary to buy some?/QUOTE]

I don't think so, Maybe MRO. I think the last ones I bought were from Ebay. Bike is looking good, hopefully you get it fired before the snow flies!
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Couldn't have said it any better, its taken me a lot longer but Jesus H those welds look like total shit. The nerve of somebody charging for it would probably have me in jail before the night was done.
I know...live and learn! It feels good do be making some progress on my own with the help of a couple good friends. Now if I could just get my $3000 deposit back.......
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I don't think so, Maybe MRO. I think the last ones I bought were from Ebay. Bike is looking good, hopefully you get it fired before the snow flies!
Thanks! My goal is to have it running before Sept 7 when I leave for Holland to visit my wifes family
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My front fork springs are taken right out in the pictures but I would like it to have a similar stance(maybe up 1-1.5" max) Should I send the forks out to be shortened or just cut the springs and build spacers? 35mm Showa front end
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My front fork springs are taken right out in the pictures but I would like it to have a similar stance(maybe up 1-1.5" max) Should I send the forks out to be shortened or just cut the springs and build spacers? 35mm Showa front end
Anybody know? I did some searching... But I'm undecided?? Cut the springs and add PVC spacers or send the tube to Forks by Frank?
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tmacracin,
Ya might try cuttin them and see if ya like it and if not, send the forks out to be cut, gona need shorter springs anyway.
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What's the advantage of cutting the forks over just cutting the springs? Still loosing travel either way?
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No your not, well sorta. When ya cut the springs your shorting the travel because the sliders will sit higher up on the tubes, thus shortining it. When ya cut the tubes, you still have the same amount of travel but since the tubes are shorter, your lowering the front end.

Now the sorta part, if you cut to much off the tubes they will bottom out on the bottom of the lower tripple tree.
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Makes sense now. I'll shorten the springs for now then send the tubes to Frank over the winter
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I decided to powdercoat the aluminum cone for my Morris mag. I noticed the prior owner has welded a oil deflector on the backside and the welds are terrible so I took it off. Should I re-weld it on?
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I decided to powdercoat the aluminum cone for my Morris mag. I noticed the prior owner has welded a oil deflector on the backside and the welds are terrible so I took it off. Should I re-weld it on?

Anybody think this oil defector is worth keeping?
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I am really liking the stance....any info on the plate between the tranny and motor? I am also running a 1 1/2 inch belt with mids and looking at a similar platform...
gonna have to read deeper into the threat to get info on the neck and degree ..
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gonna have to read deeper into the threat to get info on the neck and degree ..
Its a Primo-Rivera plate. 30 degree rake and
no stretch
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I decided to powdercoat the aluminum cone for my Morris mag. I noticed the prior owner has welded a oil deflector on the backside and the welds are terrible so I took it off. Should I re-weld it on?
The blocking plate was done during the production of the part. I think the idea is to use the same cam cover for different applications with some modifications.

I have the same block-off on my 76.
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Mine sure doesn't look like it was factory done. I popped the welds off with a screw driver and the peice of aluminum looks like a random hunk of scrap? I'll maybe give Morris Mags a call today
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Mine sure doesn't look like it was factory done. I popped the welds off with a screw driver and the peice of aluminum looks like a random hunk of scrap? I'll maybe give Morris Mags a call today
You're talking about the plate with the two holes in the photo above?

Those welds look porous. Weld quality aside, that's pretty much how mine looks. It wasn't a thing of beauty...
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that plate on the inside with the crappy welds is on all the insides of these morris M5 mag nosescones

its there for the later oil types
only the '70 and '71 don't need it ...all the others do ,so i've been told
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that plate on the inside with the crappy welds is on all the insides of these morris M5 mag nosescones

its there for the later oil types
only the '70 and '71 don't need it ...all the others do ,so i've been told

Thanks for the info I'll weld it back in
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I finally have had time to get my bike together.... Its been a long 3 years and I almost scrapped the project a couple times. Here are some final assembly pictures. I still need to do a couple things this week but hope to make some miles by the weekend
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Damn, that turned out clean!
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A friend of mine took some professional pictures of my bike on Sunday. I thought you guys would like them.

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Bike..........what bike?


EDIT: Oh there is it.


Just kidding, looks bitchin' dude, simple and clean. The way they all should be.

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Old 10-03-2012, 09:13 PM   #137
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Yes she wasn't hard to look at
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Old 10-04-2012, 02:14 AM   #138
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that turned out really good!

congrats on a job well done




now on to the next project. . . . . lol

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Old 10-04-2012, 05:21 AM   #139
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wow awesome ....got to love that girl

man had to look real hard to find your bike on these pics

but your bike is perfect !!
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Old 10-05-2012, 11:47 AM   #140
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Does anyone have a diagram for a 35mm Showa narrowglide(84-87 sporty vintage I'm told) I think I have it put together wrong. It seems to be binding up. The stock springs were already cut when I bought the front end. Is there supposed to be a damper spring also? I can't find any info on it
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Old 10-05-2012, 11:54 AM   #141
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wow awesome ....got to love that girl

man had to look real hard to find your bike on these pics

but your bike is perfect !!
Thanks!

I was just in your parts 2 weeks ago. Stayed in Den Haag for a night at the Kurhaus hotel by the peir. Very nice area
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I had the same type of deal with a guy here. Would have been cheaper to buy my own welder and do it myself......so I did. Can't stand idiots that take a man's hard earned money and do crappy work. End of rant.
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i dig your build ,great work!
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Old 10-05-2012, 11:53 PM   #144
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I had the same type of deal with a guy here. Would have been cheaper to buy my own welder and do it myself......so I did. Can't stand idiots that take a man's hard earned money and do crappy work. End of rant.
Don't get me started....some people are dirtbags!


I do feel alot better now that I finished it on my own with the help of some good buddies. That's what it's all about.
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Hey gents,

My buddy that helped me with a bunch of the fab work talked me into puting my bike in World of Wheels show at the end of this month. I'm not a big show type person but thought what the hell. I'm looking for some display ideas. Display area is 6.5'x10'. I got a bunch of old tongue and groove barn wood that I was thinking of putting down to park on. Should I use a couple lights? Stand straight up or leaned over on the kick stand? Thanks in advance for any ideas.
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Hey gents,

My buddy that helped me with a bunch of the fab work talked me into puting my bike in World of Wheels show at the end of this month. I'm not a big show type person but thought what the hell. I'm looking for some display ideas. Display area is 6.5'x10'. I got a bunch of old tongue and groove barn wood that I was thinking of putting down to park on. Should I use a couple lights? Stand straight up or leaned over on the kick stand? Thanks in advance for any ideas.
Any ideas?
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Old 02-15-2013, 11:40 PM   #148
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I dig the lean, man. Throw down some of that tongue and groove and put the kickstand down.
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