The Jockey Journal

billyfly · 08-15-2011, 02:37 PM

really like the featherbed frames so that's the basic start of this long road.. got lucky to have a guy loan me an atlas thinline frame for a week to let me measure and make form jigs and yesterday after a day of scrap i got one side bent up!....so here's the start of a long road...

...any suggestions along the way chime in!

billyfly · 08-15-2011, 02:45 PM

well the metal is flyin today! got the other side of the thinline done and figured i would bend up some 4130 for a wideline..can't do that rear kink in the 4130 so wideline it is for that material..here are the pics

hillbillyhell · 08-15-2011, 02:59 PM

Dude. When you post pictures, please hit the "enter" key between images. What you've posted looks to be the start of a nicely done frame, but it's nearly impossible to look at.

billyfly · 08-15-2011, 03:13 PM

got it sorry...

sandergecko · 08-15-2011, 03:28 PM

I'll be watching this.

Wat we need is drawings, dimensions, thickness. What did you bend that with?

Dr. Benway · 08-15-2011, 03:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sandergecko

Wat we need is drawings, dimensions, thickness. What did you bend that with?

...also, what motor do you have planned for it?

SwedeBobb · 08-15-2011, 04:24 PM

Seems like a really great start! Keep us posted

thegreasepit · 08-15-2011, 04:37 PM

WOW. Awesome start so far. After building a slimline out of 4130 myself, I can truly admire the work you are putting into this.
Must be lucky having a buddy to get frame dimensions from...

What motor do you plan on running?

billyfly · 08-15-2011, 05:24 PM

don't know what motor yet..i have none yet..thinline is 1.25 x .120 wall DOM wideline is 4130

bennybasics · 08-15-2011, 06:48 PM

Whoa - are you going true to stock dimensions or altering it in any way? I'm definitely eager to see to fruition - especially if you end up going custom and getting nutty with the end result. A daunting task indeed!

billyfly · 08-15-2011, 06:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bennybasics

Whoa - are you going true to stock dimensions or altering it in any way? I'm definitely eager to see to fruition - especially if you end up going custom and getting nutty with the end result. A daunting task indeed!

as true as you can get with a "faro arm" computer measuring device and a used 50 year old frame...

billyfly · 08-16-2011, 04:46 PM

sandergecko · 08-17-2011, 02:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by billyfly

as true as you can get with a "faro arm" computer measuring device and a used 50 year old frame...

Oh wow that is pretty accurate!

billyfly · 08-17-2011, 11:19 AM

Coco · 08-17-2011, 12:09 PM

Very cool.

DPWU · 08-17-2011, 12:19 PM

Awesome.

Loffer · 08-17-2011, 06:11 PM

Yes , jealous.

bennybasics · 08-18-2011, 05:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by billyfly

as true as you can get with a "faro arm" computer measuring device and a used 50 year old frame...

Holy crap - you aren't messing around! A friend of mine uses that in Australia for reverse engineering his old parts and making repops! He got lucky and a prototyping firm went out of business and sold their gear for cheap - it's been a boon for his work. Wow - now I really can't wait to see where this project leads. So far so good but it'll only get better!

billyfly · 08-23-2011, 01:02 PM

shades34 · 08-23-2011, 01:08 PM

Nice work, seems to be going quickly. Very interested to see you add/make parts. Good luck with the rest

bdavanza · 08-23-2011, 02:58 PM

Amazing talent. Please post more.

bobscogin · 08-23-2011, 03:22 PM

Super job! It's refreshing to see fabrication talent that goes beyond the oridinary weld on hardtail.

Bob

billyfly · 08-23-2011, 05:40 PM

no motor yet just a case i had layin' around

dukerollo · 08-24-2011, 12:04 AM

Very interesting, in for updates.

Just my opinion, but I think that that frame needs a bit more of a substantial engine plopped in there. There is too much negative space. Great work thus far though.

swooshdave · 08-24-2011, 12:32 AM

I've never seen a Ducati in a featherbed, just sayin'...

DesmoDog · 08-25-2011, 11:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by swooshdave

I've never seen a Ducati in a featherbed, just sayin'...

IMHO there are a few good reasons for that. Top two being I don't see the engine fitting the frame very well, and Ducati made frames that worked pretty well as is.

Basically I don't see the point of that excercise other than just to be different, which is ok I suppose but not my cup of tea. FWIW if I were going to build a featherbed style framed bike, it'd be Sportster powered...

Dr. Benway · 08-25-2011, 11:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dukerollo

Just my opinion, but I think that that frame needs a bit more of a substantial engine plopped in there.

*cough*

Yeah, I know the motors are hard to come by, maybe someone will leave one on the curb for you.

Whoa, look at that kicker arm!

thegreasepit · 08-25-2011, 12:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dr. Benway

*cough*

Yeah, I know the motors are hard to come by, maybe someone will leave one on the curb for you.

Whoa, look at that kicker arm!

We can only hope for that kind of surprise.

Notice the mock up of the (not a Ducati) engine and the set-up on the Norvin...
both right side drive.

coincidence?

I'll try not to get my hopes up TOO much.

billyfly · 08-25-2011, 02:58 PM

i can only wish haha

swooshdave · 08-25-2011, 03:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by thegreasepit

We can only hope for that kind of surprise.

Notice the mock up of the Ducati engine and the set-up on the Norvin...
both right side drive.

coincidence?

I'll try not to get my hopes up TOO much.

He didn't use a Ducati for a mock up, I don't know what it is.

I was just suggesting that for someone.

swooshdave · 08-25-2011, 03:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DesmoDog

IMHO there are a few good reasons for that. Top two being I don't see the engine fitting the frame very well, and Ducati made frames that worked pretty well as is.

Basically I don't see the point of that excercise other than just to be different, which is ok I suppose but not my cup of tea. FWIW if I were going to build a featherbed style framed bike, it'd be Sportster powered...

Why, it's been done. That's why I suggested a Ducati.

billyfly · 08-25-2011, 03:34 PM

haha thats a 305 dream case!!!!!

billyfly · 09-02-2011, 03:10 PM

got a motor

Dr. Benway · 09-02-2011, 03:14 PM

Wow, this'll be a proper Triton then.

bon · 09-02-2011, 06:20 PM

The old british pre war jap v-twin engines fit nicely and are not done that often , one of those would be something really special.

tin top tiny · 09-02-2011, 07:00 PM

looking good

billyfly · 10-05-2011, 04:51 PM

redasphalt3 · 10-05-2011, 06:54 PM

very nice

worn · 10-05-2011, 08:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by billyfly

don't know what motor yet..i have none yet..thinline is 1.25 x .120 wall DOM wideline is 4130

All production Featherbed frames were mild steel, both Thinline and Wideline. Only the Manx Featherbeds, which were Wideline, were Reynolds 531, and they were not quite the same as the production frames - no castings, no steering head gussets, different swingarms etc.

edit - Sorry, I also wanted to say you're doing a hell of a job recreating one of the best frames ever made. I've had a NorBSA and a Triton, you're going to love it.

bon · 10-05-2011, 08:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by worn

All production Featherbed frames were mild steel, both Thinline and Wideline. Only the Manx Featherbeds, which were Wideline, were Reynolds 531, and they were not quite the same as the production frames - no castings, no steering head gussets, different swingarms etc.

+1 , the bend radius under the seat was 8" also and looks better imho.

dukerollo · 10-05-2011, 09:27 PM

Very nice. Would you consider making these for sale? They are bit bit tough to find these days.

tin top tiny · 10-05-2011, 10:57 PM

lookin good so far

Grease Rod · 10-06-2011, 01:07 AM

Quote:

Very nice. Would you consider making these for sale? They are bit bit tough to find these days.

Yes, exactly! These frames are definitely hard to come by. And it seems like it might be a stateside thing. I feel like they must find a bunch of them across the pond. Anyways, the frame is looking great! Any ideas on the tank, seat, clip-ons?

Sidecar Racer · 10-06-2011, 05:50 AM

Not all that hard to come by.

Try www.manxnorton.co.nz Some of the best in the world. And not all that expensive.
Ideal motor to put in there ??? Ironhead Sportster. Ask me how I know.

grommet · 10-06-2011, 06:09 AM

WOW!!
that is crazy.....cant wait to see it finished

DPWU · 10-06-2011, 08:03 AM

That this is beautiful. Can't wait to see your build.

BobAsh · 10-06-2011, 08:23 AM

Great project.

sandergecko · 10-06-2011, 10:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sidecar Racer

Not all that hard to come by.

Try www.manxnorton.co.nz Some of the best in the world. And not all that expensive.
Ideal motor to put in there ??? Ironhead Sportster. Ask me how I know.

I'll bite, how do you know?

And yes newly made featherbeds are not hard to find.

billyfly · 10-06-2011, 11:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Grease Rod

Yes, exactly! These frames are definitely hard to come by. And it seems like it might be a stateside thing. I feel like they must find a bunch of them across the pond. Anyways, the frame is looking great! Any ideas on the tank, seat, clip-ons?

haha next one.......
manx style tank, seat, and clip ons..gonna try and make all....this frame is accurate to the 1967 atlas slimline i had for measurement...but i am now set up to make them in 1/4inch increment widths to accommodate different engine finial drive chain clearances...i am hoping to sell the basic frame tack welded in my frame jig soon...

Voneville · 10-06-2011, 09:14 PM

I've wanted a featherbed since I first read Rockers! when I was in high school. Looks great, can't wait to see the finished product.

Sidecar Racer · 10-07-2011, 07:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sandergecko

I'll bite, how do you know?

And yes newly made featherbeds are not hard to find.

'Cause that's what I put in mine !

ShovelJockey · 10-07-2011, 07:48 PM

Youve got some good stuff going on here. Keep it up!

Sporticus · 10-07-2011, 08:05 PM

'68 XLCH in a slimline. I never finished it, got bored, and passed it along. A wideline would have made for a much nicer fit.

Grease Rod · 10-07-2011, 08:59 PM

Wow, such an amazing jig! I was actually wondering if maybe you could pm me the dimensions of the jig? I would love to try my hand at making one of those up! If it's too much to ask then it's fine by all means.

This is looking great! That engine will be amazing inside of the frame too. One of my favorite things in the world is a Harley Cafe. Something about the mixing of the two... Really can't wait to see more of this build! Keep us posted!

thegreasepit · 10-07-2011, 09:16 PM

Yeah, this thing looks wayyy better than mine. I didn't have the bigger radius dies for my bender.

I would kill for some proper dimensions so I can make another one in the future that'll look better.

billyfly · 10-08-2011, 06:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Grease Rod

Wow, such an amazing jig! I was actually wondering if maybe you could pm me the dimensions of the jig? I would love to try my hand at making one of those up! If it's too much to ask then it's fine by all means.

This is looking great! That engine will be amazing inside of the frame too. One of my favorite things in the world is a Harley Cafe. Something about the mixing of the two... Really can't wait to see more of this build! Keep us posted!

the frame jig is mostly 2x2 .120 wall and the base is 5x2 .188wall...base is 36x24 and the sides are 25x48 ...oh and btw the first one will be the triumph pre unit then the ironhead....

billyfly · 10-08-2011, 08:49 AM

upper shock mounts

oh yea and side project for my kid ...one piece hard tail

billyfly · 10-08-2011, 10:42 AM

and his leaf spring front end

69camfrk · 10-08-2011, 02:10 PM

Damn son, nice work!!!

Grease Rod · 10-08-2011, 11:33 PM

Looking great! Thanks for the dimensions too. That one piece hard tail is sweet too, what's the bend on that? Can't wait to see more!

Also, that looks like an XS650 frame if I am not mistaken...?

dukerollo · 10-09-2011, 12:43 AM

I know that they are readily in the UK and Australia, but with shipping and the exchange rate, a frame made in the US could be a good bit cheaper than having one flown in. Billyfly, I really look forward to seeing how this turns out.

Ray. · 10-09-2011, 11:43 AM

The Tubing work on that alone is sick!

billyfly · 10-09-2011, 03:29 PM

couldn't resist....

billyfly · 10-09-2011, 03:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Grease Rod

Looking great! Thanks for the dimensions too. That one piece hard tail is sweet too, what's the bend on that? Can't wait to see more!

Also, that looks like an XS650 frame if I am not mistaken...?

3inch radius on the hardtail no stretch ... yea you are correct xs650..

super rat · 10-09-2011, 08:23 PM

just noticed this thread, awesome work! did you notch the frame tubes goin into the steering head after you bent them? seems like that would be difficult, not that i would know how to do it any other way.

billyfly · 10-10-2011, 07:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by super rat

just noticed this thread, awesome work! did you notch the frame tubes goin into the steering head after you bent them? seems like that would be difficult, not that i would know how to do it any other way.

yes after...took a while but figured a relatively easy way with a hole saw set up...turn out dead on

billyfly · 10-12-2011, 09:26 AM

rear engine plate for pre unit

Old Codger · 10-12-2011, 11:24 AM

In post #58 what is that rear wheel ?

billyfly · 10-12-2011, 11:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Old Codger

In post #58 what is that rear wheel ?

honda cb77

ago · 10-12-2011, 08:22 PM

What makes the featherbed frame so good?

Ago

billyfly · 10-13-2011, 08:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ago

What makes the featherbed frame so good?
Ago

it was born that way!

bobscogin · 10-13-2011, 08:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ago

What makes the featherbed frame so good?

Ago

The McCandless brothers made it good. Norton decided to use it. The rest is history.

Bob

dhallilama · 10-13-2011, 10:07 AM

when you're interested in selling the jigged/tacked frames, i'm interested... the last thing i need is yet another project, but at the same time i have a need to collect projects...

beautiful so far! THIS is an awesome thread for JJ...

billyfly · 10-13-2011, 10:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dhallilama

when you're interested in selling the jigged/tacked frames, i'm interested... the last thing i need is yet another project, but at the same time i have a need to collect projects...

beautiful so far! THIS is an awesome thread for JJ...

i can now so pm me...frame tacked together like this 400...head stock will not be cut because of the many different kinds that could be used..

Grease Rod · 10-13-2011, 06:01 PM

Man, love those featherbeds... Is the CB77 wheel from a parts bike you had? Or did you get it separately? I only ask because I am looking for the carburetors for a CB77 and if you had them, well I would be very interested in purchasing. Let me know!

Keep going with the build. This is one of the best threads going right now!

billyfly · 10-13-2011, 06:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Grease Rod

Man, love those featherbeds... Is the CB77 wheel from a parts bike you had? Or did you get it separately? I only ask because I am looking for the carburetors for a CB77 and if you had them, well I would be very interested in purchasing. Let me know!

Keep going with the build. This is one of the best threads going right now!

sorry no extra carbs

billyfly · 10-15-2011, 04:38 PM

Grease Rod · 10-15-2011, 06:05 PM

Ah, thanks for letting me know. The engine mock up looks great! Those brackets turned out really well.

billyfly · 10-19-2011, 03:33 PM

clip-ons

DesmoDog · 10-20-2011, 02:47 PM

Do the serrated sections used to make the joint have a name, and are they available somewhere or do they have to be fabricated? I have a frame that uses them for footpeg mounts, but they have been damaged. I'd like to cut off the old ones and weld on new ones, but I'm not even sure what they're called to search for them...

Eurotrashed88 · 10-20-2011, 03:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ago

What makes the featherbed frame so good?

Ago

The featherbed was said to be the best handling frame of it's time, couple that with the power of the Triumph 650 which was the most balanced egine with respectable power, and it just made for a really great motorcycle.

billyfly · 10-21-2011, 08:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DesmoDog

Do the serrated sections used to make the joint have a name, and are they available somewhere or do they have to be fabricated? I have a frame that uses them for footpeg mounts, but they have been damaged. I'd like to cut off the old ones and weld on new ones, but I'm not even sure what they're called to search for them...

they're from old 60's hondas foot rests .... this was off a honda 305 super hawk..they're 1" dia 15 teeth...

image1 · 10-21-2011, 08:38 AM

those clipons are very cool!!!

billyfly · 10-21-2011, 02:29 PM

side project .. tired of pushing cycles up steps
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I_gyTh1LObU

hatchethairy · 10-21-2011, 02:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by billyfly

side project .. tired of pushing cycles up steps
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I_gyTh1LObU

Very clever!

Nice build, and especially nice touch to have a sort of indexing on the clip ons.

billyfly · 10-23-2011, 10:18 AM

another side project keeping me from the featherbed....ahh kids!

steel horse rider · 10-26-2011, 02:19 AM

That is one good looking frame can't wait to see it finished.

Rathead · 10-27-2011, 09:45 PM

Nice build so far!

billyfly · 12-22-2011, 11:22 AM

Swan · 12-22-2011, 01:32 PM

Nice design and fabrication! Your front motor mount is different from a standard featherbed but should work well. What type of silent blocs, bushings or bearings did you use on the swing arm??

billyfly · 12-22-2011, 01:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Swan

Nice design and fabrication! Your front motor mount is different from a standard featherbed but should work well. What type of silent blocs, bushings or bearings did you use on the swing arm??

a roller sleeve bearing set up for an xs650

Sporticus · 12-22-2011, 02:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by billyfly

side project .. tired of pushing cycles up steps
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I_gyTh1LObU

This is probably going way off-topic and deserving of its on thread, but I'd love to know about that stair lift - especially the part where the platform meets the rails. Two pair of rollers - above and below the rail??

billyfly · 12-22-2011, 06:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sporticus

This is probably going way off-topic and deserving of its on thread, but I'd love to know about that stair lift - especially the part where the platform meets the rails. Two pair of rollers - above and below the rail??

yep! you got it..

Dr. Benway · 12-22-2011, 07:06 PM

What are those top shock mounts made from, tubing or solid?

Loffer · 12-22-2011, 08:54 PM

Very Nice Billyfly. I have wanted one of these frames for a while now I may be hitting you up in the spring. I had to laugh at the lift , if i had stairs that wide bringing a bike up would be easy

Its a normal 32-36" wide staircase that makes it really tough...

dvrogers · 12-23-2011, 01:21 AM

Very nice.

billyfly · 12-23-2011, 07:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dr. Benway

What are those top shock mounts made from, tubing or solid?

tubing 1x2x.120wall

billyfly · 01-10-2012, 03:14 PM

welded frame

billyfly · 01-23-2012, 02:45 PM

started my oil tank.....

billyfly · 01-27-2012, 04:17 PM

bon · 01-27-2012, 09:52 PM

Lovely work billyfly , you have a ready made business there making replica featherbed frames for the latest craze, cafe racers. I wish i had the room you have to work. Well done.

billyfly · 01-28-2012, 08:04 AM

thanx ...finally doin what i like!

billyfly · 02-02-2012, 09:30 AM

more on kids front end

billyfly · 02-06-2012, 02:52 PM

kmodelmick · 02-07-2012, 03:28 PM

Beautiful work! I am interested in buying a featherbed for a K model engine that I have. I live near Pittsburgh, so it's not that far from Philly. If there is any chance of that happening, let me know. Thanks, Mick michaelcore98@yahoo.com

billyfly · 02-14-2012, 12:25 PM

more kid stuff

billyfly · 02-14-2012, 12:25 PM

billyfly · 02-14-2012, 12:42 PM

also i've bin workin

billyfly · 02-18-2012, 04:04 PM

rear loop

billyfly · 02-19-2012, 09:13 PM

rubber thimbles go into ends of rear loop to secure

billy
http://rofomoto.weebly.com

Loffer · 02-20-2012, 05:46 PM

Looks good man. Nice work.

swooshdave · 02-20-2012, 10:54 PM

What exactly would it take for a person to be able to generate MSOs?

Dave Carney · 02-21-2012, 05:55 AM

Very interesting projects. Nice work!

billyfly · 02-21-2012, 08:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by swooshdave

What exactly would it take for a person to be able to generate MSOs?

in PA..for new construction you only need MSO for the things you didnt make...for the things you make you need bill of materials for the things used to make it...i supply bill of materials YOU used to make this frame....
billy
http://rofomoto.weebly.com

Sporticus · 02-21-2012, 09:49 AM

Holy shit, the painted version is beautiful. Thank you for not putting "Triton" text on the tank.

billyfly · 02-21-2012, 10:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sporticus

Holy shit, the painted version is beautiful. Thank you for not putting "Triton" text on the tank.

haha to many Asian parts on it to do that!
billy
http://rofomoto.weebly.com

wilkey113 · 02-21-2012, 03:29 PM

I know it was a few pages back, but I'm wondering what swingarm you used. It looks like it might be off a Commando but I'd like to know for sure.
Featherbed swingarms are pretty narrow at the front and make for a real tight fit even with a 110 tire.

billyfly · 02-21-2012, 10:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wilkey113

I know it was a few pages back, but I'm wondering what swingarm you used. It looks like it might be off a Commando but I'd like to know for sure.
Featherbed swingarms are pretty narrow at the front and make for a real tight fit even with a 110 tire.

mine is a total mix... xs650 pivot tube and bearings, my own arms and honda cb77 axle plates...basic measurements from a triumph post.. i have a 110/90 mounted easily ... i also turned down the cb77 rear hub to line up drive gear so i didnt have to lace wheel with a half inch offset...also reversed all brake linkages and flipped wheel to left drive..

billyfly · 02-28-2012, 05:54 PM

rear sets

Richharr · 02-29-2012, 03:59 PM

renaissance man on the velocity channel just did an episode on old bikes, they covered featherbed frames. it was a great episode. check there site

PaulL · 03-09-2012, 09:00 AM

Hi Billyfly,
I am new here and your featherbed is just what I want to build.
I could buy one but not for £1700.
Could you send me some measurements for it there is none of any sense on the internet. I know this is a big ask.
I love the whole tread, you are a craftman without question.
Thanks for any help.
Paull

swooshdave · 03-09-2012, 11:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PaulL

Hi Billyfly,
I am new here and your featherbed is just what I want to build.
I could buy one but not for £1700.
Could you send me some measurements for it there is none of any sense on the internet. I know this is a big ask.
I love the whole tread, you are a craftman without question.
Thanks for any help.
Paull

It's not terribly hard to find a featherbed in the UK, from what I've heard. Nortons weren't really popular in the States prior to the Commando, so the early stuff is more difficult to find here. That being said knowing the right people scored me a couple featherbeds to take measurements from.

bobscogin · 03-09-2012, 02:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by swooshdave

That being said knowing the right people scored me a couple featherbeds to take measurements from.

That's a good start. Do you have dimensioned drawings of the other views?

Bob

swooshdave · 03-09-2012, 07:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bobscogin

That's a good start. Do you have dimensioned drawings of the other views?

Bob

http://www.jockeyjournal.com/forum/s...6&postcount=29

bobscogin · 03-09-2012, 10:59 PM

Excellent. Saved.

Bob

ManxRacer · 03-10-2012, 05:33 AM

I would caveat that the featherbed frames varied a great deal. The Manx frames more-so. A friend of mine owned approximately one dozen Manx and Atlas frames. He measured their dimensions and found great variations in some areas. Obviously the critical dimensions, such as the engine plate mounts, are the same others are not.

The radius rates for bends were considerably different too. Needless to say the Manx, wideline and slimline frames vary considerably by design and through the years they changed the subframe design. The good news is that if you get the general dimensions right and the critical dimensions right, your frame can't go wrong in terms of original dimensions!

PaulL · 03-10-2012, 05:59 AM

Hi All,
There are many featherbed frames in the UK, but there is nothing like building your own. Its a test of skill and a pleasure.
I have looked at a lot of pictures on the net and most of the frames do vary in radii size and the like.
I would like to know the width of the front and rear downtubes and swing arm width at the swing arm plates.
I will post the build for others if you would like but I am using a jap cb 650 lump.
Money is always a problem, so I tend to try and build everything including the tools to do it, like my english wheel and plenishing hammer.
Thank for the replies.
This site is cool
Paul

billyfly · 03-10-2012, 12:07 PM

even with a computer based measuring farro arm this frame is difficult..i had a 66 atlas frame i borrowed to do the ones i am making...it had 6.5 inch center-line radius main frame and 3 in radius back loop...the hard part is the small kink right next to the 6.5 inch radius in rear part of the slimline...i spent 6 months developing it...

PaulL · 03-14-2012, 03:44 AM

Hi Billyfly,
I was going to try and do an 8" bend in the top rail but with a 4.5" die, it is possible but not a perfect curve. Just going to have a play and scrap some tube trying.
The kink is difficult right next to the top curve but i have a plan to do it no my bender.
This for me is just an experiment, so scraping some tube is aways going to happen.
Thanks
Paull

billyfly · 03-14-2012, 12:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PaulL

Hi Billyfly,
I was going to try and do an 8" bend in the top rail but with a 4.5" die, it is possible but not a perfect curve. Just going to have a play and scrap some tube trying.
The kink is difficult right next to the top curve but i have a plan to do it no my bender.
This for me is just an experiment, so scraping some tube is aways going to happen.
Thanks
Paull

sounds good ....good luck...post some pics!

billyfly · 03-14-2012, 08:19 PM

tank strap done..leather under aluminum

crawler07 · 03-14-2012, 08:31 PM

tank strap looks great! Is their any way you could post some close up pics of how it attaches to the front and rear??

billyfly · 03-15-2012, 08:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by crawler07

tank strap looks great! Is their any way you could post some close up pics of how it attaches to the front and rear??

thanx..crawler....i'll get some close ups today....

billyfly · 03-15-2012, 06:25 PM

close ups

billyfly · 04-04-2012, 02:02 PM

rear fender fit...( i need a real camera)

Swan · 04-05-2012, 01:20 PM

Nice work, but yes, you need a real camera.

kickstarts · 04-06-2012, 06:40 AM

Or a tripod.

billyfly · 04-06-2012, 09:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jonnybravo

think a Suzuki GS 1100 swingarm would work in thaT FRAME ???

the back upright tubes have 7.5 inches in between....the swing axle plates can be put where you need apart..pic with tape measure i could tell you

billyfly · 04-30-2012, 01:29 PM

exhaust done on left

JasonMcElroy · 04-30-2012, 02:06 PM

Did I see you carrying one of those frames at Oley on Saturday? If so, looks great.

Jason

billyfly · 04-30-2012, 03:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JasonMcElroy

Did I see you carrying one of those frames at Oley on Saturday? If so, looks great.

Jason

yep that was us...got a lot of interest in it....Cafe Racer TV show interviewed us for next season too..

billyfly · 05-05-2012, 01:26 PM

mock up finally done time to rip it apart....

Hopper · 05-06-2012, 12:47 AM

wow. Putting the DIY back in DIY. Beautiful work!

billyfly · 05-29-2012, 08:08 PM

well ripped everything apart and just got it back from powder coating

takin-care-of-business · 05-29-2012, 08:44 PM

beautiful fabrication skills. true work of art.

respect.

billyfly · 05-29-2012, 09:19 PM

oh yea ...shinned up the oil tank

billyfly · 05-30-2012, 04:54 PM

shades34 · 05-30-2012, 10:06 PM

You need a better camera!! The frame looks great but my eyes need adjusting. Bike is going to be killer.

billyfly · 06-04-2012, 01:08 PM

Sturdly · 06-05-2012, 11:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by shades34

You need a better camera!! The frame looks great but my eyes need adjusting. Bike is going to be killer.

Yup the bike is gonna turn out great!

Totally off topic (mod delete if not appropriate) >>>>>> I'm sure if he's using one, the camera is ok too. Just the usual operator error of camera shake. Basically the camera moves when the shutter button is pushed. Can be eliminated or reduced by using the correct techniques to hold it still or place on a tripod or some other immovable item. I set mine on milk crate, work bench etc. whatever sits at the right height. Compose after setting it down then press the time release and wait for the click. Instant improvement and much more clear, well focused photos. Harder to do with a cell phone lol.

Here's a good link with some basics: http://digital-photography-school.co...d-camera-shake

billyfly · 08-15-2012, 07:43 PM

bin awhile but I've bin doin a lot of non-cycle stuff...ahh girl friends! but i have managed to sell a couple more frames and also trade one for this!

vendetta · 08-16-2012, 02:55 AM

cool-that'll look damn nice in one of your frames!

Dan Boy · 08-16-2012, 03:12 AM

Bikes going to look great when its done but PLEASE get a better camera!

billyfly · 10-21-2012, 08:09 PM

dirtyest devil · 10-25-2012, 05:51 AM

Great thread, killer skills!

billyfly · 11-01-2012, 09:54 AM

it runs!!!!

bbillington · 11-01-2012, 10:25 AM

absolutely killer. So cool to see this coming to life. You selling many frames or are you not there yet?

billyfly · 11-01-2012, 10:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bbillington

absolutely killer. So cool to see this coming to life. You selling many frames or are you not there yet?

yeah... bin a great learning year...sold about 16 so far..last two over seas..thanx billy

ourmaninshanghai · 11-04-2012, 08:34 PM

The treatment of the front forks and the painted clip on's give the bike a great vintage feel - really like your attention to detail. Looks perfect to me.

billyfly · 12-01-2012, 04:48 PM

Apehanger Hank · 12-02-2012, 12:40 PM

Beautiful. I really like the Superhawk fork, it adds to the period look.
Hank

billyfly · 01-07-2013, 11:12 AM

cold day of riding but fun

Jesse_in_NY · 01-07-2013, 08:13 PM

Just read the whole thing. That is splendid. Beautifully done.

08-15-2011, 02:37 PM	#1
billyfly Member Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: philly Posts: 87	featherbed frame build really like the featherbed frames so that's the basic start of this long road.. got lucky to have a guy loan me an atlas thinline frame for a week to let me measure and make form jigs and yesterday after a day of scrap i got one side bent up!....so here's the start of a long road......any suggestions along the way chime in!

08-15-2011, 02:45 PM	#2
billyfly Member Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: philly Posts: 87	Re: featherbed frame build well the metal is flyin today! got the other side of the thinline done and figured i would bend up some 4130 for a wideline..can't do that rear kink in the 4130 so wideline it is for that material..here are the pics

08-15-2011, 02:59 PM	#3
hillbillyhell Senior Member Join Date: May 2007 Location: Richmond, VA Posts: 1,547	Re: featherbed frame build Dude. When you post pictures, please hit the "enter" key between images. What you've posted looks to be the start of a nicely done frame, but it's nearly impossible to look at. __________________ Atom Bomb Motorcycles Richmond VA Atom Bomb on Facebook Atom Bomb Blog

08-15-2011, 03:13 PM	#4
billyfly Member Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: philly Posts: 87	Re: featherbed frame build got it sorry...

08-15-2011, 04:24 PM	#7
SwedeBobb Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Burträsk Sweden Posts: 1,426	Re: featherbed frame build Seems like a really great start! Keep us posted __________________ The custom russian Facebook

08-15-2011, 03:28 PM	#5
sandergecko Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Netherlands below sea level Posts: 876	Re: featherbed frame build I'll be watching this. Wat we need is drawings, dimensions, thickness. What did you bend that with? __________________ www.GeckoKustoms.com GET FLAKED!

08-15-2011, 04:37 PM	#8
thegreasepit Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Palm Desert, CA Posts: 339	Re: featherbed frame build WOW. Awesome start so far. After building a slimline out of 4130 myself, I can truly admire the work you are putting into this. Must be lucky having a buddy to get frame dimensions from... What motor do you plan on running? __________________ "The only reason you're not riding around like a maniac is because you're sitting at a stop light!" - the girlfriend

08-15-2011, 05:24 PM	#9
billyfly Member Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: philly Posts: 87	Re: featherbed frame build don't know what motor yet..i have none yet..thinline is 1.25 x .120 wall DOM wideline is 4130

08-15-2011, 06:48 PM	#10
bennybasics Member Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: GB Posts: 75	Re: featherbed frame build Whoa - are you going true to stock dimensions or altering it in any way? I'm definitely eager to see to fruition - especially if you end up going custom and getting nutty with the end result. A daunting task indeed!

08-16-2011, 04:46 PM	#12
billyfly Member Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: philly Posts: 87	Re: featherbed frame build

08-17-2011, 11:19 AM	#14
billyfly Member Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: philly Posts: 87	Re: featherbed frame build

08-17-2011, 12:09 PM	#15
Coco Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Regina Sk. Canada Posts: 1,394	Re: featherbed frame build Very cool. __________________ ---------------------------------------------------

08-17-2011, 12:19 PM	#16
DPWU Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: Halifax, NS Posts: 149	Re: featherbed frame build Awesome.

08-17-2011, 06:11 PM	#17
Loffer Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: WINSTON GA. Posts: 2,976	Re: featherbed frame build Yes , jealous. __________________ http://schitzowheels.blogspot.com/?m=1

08-23-2011, 01:02 PM	#19
billyfly Member Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: philly Posts: 87	Re: featherbed frame build

08-23-2011, 01:08 PM	#20
shades34 Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Mankato MN Posts: 484	Re: featherbed frame build Nice work, seems to be going quickly. Very interested to see you add/make parts. Good luck with the rest

08-23-2011, 02:58 PM	#21
bdavanza Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: TX Posts: 436	Re: featherbed frame build Amazing talent. Please post more.

08-23-2011, 03:22 PM	#22
bobscogin Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Slidell, LA Posts: 937	Re: featherbed frame build Super job! It's refreshing to see fabrication talent that goes beyond the oridinary weld on hardtail. Bob

08-23-2011, 05:40 PM	#23
billyfly Member Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: philly Posts: 87	Re: featherbed frame build no motor yet just a case i had layin' around

08-24-2011, 12:04 AM	#24
dukerollo Junior Member Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: desert wasteland Posts: 17	Re: featherbed frame build Very interesting, in for updates. Just my opinion, but I think that that frame needs a bit more of a substantial engine plopped in there. There is too much negative space. Great work thus far though.

08-24-2011, 12:32 AM	#25
swooshdave Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Portland, Oregon Posts: 371	Re: featherbed frame build I've never seen a Ducati in a featherbed, just sayin'...

08-25-2011, 02:58 PM	#29
billyfly Member Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: philly Posts: 87	Re: featherbed frame build i can only wish haha

08-25-2011, 03:34 PM	#32
billyfly Member Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: philly Posts: 87	Re: featherbed frame build haha thats a 305 dream case!!!!!

09-02-2011, 03:10 PM	#33
billyfly Member Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: philly Posts: 87	Re: featherbed frame build got a motor

09-02-2011, 03:14 PM	#34
Dr. Benway Moderator Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Northeast US Posts: 5,726	Re: featherbed frame build Wow, this'll be a proper Triton then.

09-02-2011, 06:20 PM	#35
bon Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: dublin ireland Posts: 200	Re: featherbed frame build The old british pre war jap v-twin engines fit nicely and are not done that often , one of those would be something really special.

09-02-2011, 07:00 PM	#36
tin top tiny Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: dirty jersey Posts: 113	Re: featherbed frame build looking good

10-05-2011, 04:51 PM	#37
billyfly Member Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: philly Posts: 87	Re: featherbed frame build

10-05-2011, 06:54 PM	#38
redasphalt3 Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: los angeles Posts: 391	Re: featherbed frame build very nice

10-05-2011, 09:27 PM	#41
dukerollo Junior Member Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: desert wasteland Posts: 17	Re: featherbed frame build Very nice. Would you consider making these for sale? They are bit bit tough to find these days.

10-05-2011, 10:57 PM	#42
tin top tiny Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: dirty jersey Posts: 113	Re: featherbed frame build lookin good so far

10-06-2011, 05:50 AM	#44
Sidecar Racer Junior Member Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: Brisbane Queensland Australia Posts: 9	Re: featherbed frame build Not all that hard to come by. Try www.manxnorton.co.nz Some of the best in the world. And not all that expensive. Ideal motor to put in there ??? Ironhead Sportster. Ask me how I know.

10-06-2011, 06:09 AM	#45
grommet Junior Member Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: South GA Posts: 7	Re: featherbed frame build WOW!! that is crazy.....cant wait to see it finished __________________ Stupidity should be painful...

10-06-2011, 08:03 AM	#46
DPWU Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: Halifax, NS Posts: 149	Re: featherbed frame build That this is beautiful. Can't wait to see your build.

10-06-2011, 08:23 AM	#47
BobAsh Member Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Broken Arrow, OK Posts: 87	Re: featherbed frame build Great project.