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Old 06-06-2011, 01:26 PM   #1
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Default '82 Shovelhead woes...any advice?

I'll make it short. I've been working on finishing my buddy's bike while he's away fighting wars in Iraq and Afghanistan. I got it put together and wired and fired it up. Fresh engine and all. It ran great for a week or so. I upgraded to a very nice S7S carb. It then ran even better! Rode it nice and easy for another week, just slowly breaking in the engine. After a few weeks of babying it around, I felt it was ready for normal riding. I had my wife hop on the back and we rolled over to friends for a BBQ....

So that's when things went South. It started to miss a little, then got worse. Eventually it would't run except at idle. It stack fires and back fires from both cylinders. It can't get any RPM's without sounding like a barrage of cannonfire.

Well, I thought it might be the carb, so I went back to the CV and no change. Then I checked the intake boots. No leaks. I did a compression test and that's good. Pushrods seem to be adjusted properly as well. Points look good, but I can't remember if he had new ones in it when I got it from him. Points spark when running is blue and seems consistent?

I'm at a loss. Does anyone have any ideas? Anyone gone through this before? My friend is coming home for few weeks really soon and I'd love to have it ready for him to ride. Any and ALL help would be much appreciated.
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oil to the topend??? exhaust valves sticking???
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Old 06-06-2011, 01:40 PM   #3
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Replace the coil and check your battery with a load tester. It may show that it is charged, but fail when a load is placed on it. I bet it's one of those two.
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Old 06-06-2011, 02:01 PM   #4
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I had the same sympyoms,turned out to be the coil ,it sporadically made hot enough good spark when it did the unburned fuel set off and created backfire,would run at idle but wouldnt make power cause coil didnt make enough spark,sounds similar .I suppose it may be voltage regulator ,or stator ,or condenser-points. the first thing to do is put new plugs in.hope it works out thanks for being a good friend to one of our finest and good luck
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Old 06-06-2011, 02:12 PM   #5
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I agree with the coil. I just went through that. When the bike was cold it ran awesome...when at running temp it ran like crap. I replaced the coil and it improved dramatically. I also replaced the springs in my advance weights and new points. Totally different bike now. Runs and idles great when at running temp.
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Old 06-06-2011, 02:17 PM   #6
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I had the same sympyoms,turned out to be the coil ,it sporadically made hot enough good spark when it did the unburned fuel set off and created backfire,would run at idle but wouldnt make power cause coil didnt make enough spark,sounds similar .I suppose it may be voltage regulator ,or stator ,or condenser-points. the first thing to do is put new plugs in.hope it works out thanks for being a good friend to one of our finest and good luck
I completely agree. Definitely ignition related. Sounds like it's getting plenty of fuel.
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Old 06-06-2011, 03:16 PM   #7
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Timing weights sticking? Does it have them?

My '79 would do that.
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Old 06-06-2011, 04:32 PM   #8
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Timing weights not sticking. Coil has 4.3 ohms resistance which seems ok.
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Old 06-06-2011, 05:02 PM   #9
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Start with some new plugs, Autolite #4265 . I tried fancy pants plugs in my shovel and when they went bad, it was like the 4th of July coming out of my exhaust!
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spark plugs are a very good indicator of issues if you read em right, hopefully youve examined them already.
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my coil on my 82 had a hair line crack in it caused the same problems but more under a load
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OK, I'm gonna go pick up some new plugs. I have an Accel supercoil, but it's a 4 ohm unit that I got for my Triumph, so I don't think that installing it on the Shovel is going to help me out. I will try to source a replacement coil locally, but if I strike out, does anyone have one I could buy? Just checking.
Thanks for all the advice and help to all of you. My friend is going to be stoked if I get it going. He's Special Forces and been through Hell and back. Seems the least I can do to get his machine rolling so he can blow off some stress and troubles with his knees in the breeze.
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replace the condenser you must have converted it over to a points system ????? replace it condensers will do that after they get warm an start to break down, Been through that many a time
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Old 06-06-2011, 05:51 PM   #14
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SUH-WEEET!!! I think I found the culprit. One lead going to the coil was frayed and grounding on the rear head!! This is so good. I'm very happy for my friend. Gonna go fix it up and fire it. Will check back and let you all know how it worked out.
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Old 06-06-2011, 07:37 PM   #15
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Still doing it, but not as bad. Damnit. Better get those plugs and put the S&S back on it then see what happens.
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Old 06-11-2011, 02:36 PM   #16
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To all concerned, it seems to be back to normal. Replaced the condenser, reset points gap, new plugs, reset timing and she fired up real nice. My buddy is gonna be stoked to ride again. Hell, anything is better than Ass-crack-istan. Thanks for all the advice and help.
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Thats awesome man so glad it wasnt major congratulations.
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jimmi, Grumpys cycle has a ton of shovelhead parts. I wish I could remember what town he's in but I know it's in Washington. he ran into a few huge lots of parts and stuff for sale on shovelhead.us all the time. If you need anything I'd give them a shout.

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Thanks, Spartan. I'll check it out. I'm having some issues with the clutch, so if I need anything I'll look him up.
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