My harmon long bike build!

[smithcasey210]

So not to long ago i picked up a harmon front end 24 over and decided its time to build a long bike. So i was either gonna build a shovel or a pan so a basket shovel project came up and wa la... The start of a delkron case build from the bottom up.. so luckily my good friend john found a harmon frame for to match my front end. The neck was no where close to be raked right and i am lucky enough to know Bill harmon who built these bike for the past decades with john harmon when he was alive and Bill still builds these front ends.. so bill is rakeing out this neck to fit my front end and i am lucky enough to work righ along side of him learing all his knowlage...I also am lucky to have a good friend john to help me build this shovel motor to go along with this bike...super stoked!! now for some pics!

The last pic is the look i am going for..i already have that tank and i got a cheetah seat to go with it also.. i will get some better mock up pics when i get the neck on!

[Am-Iron]

It's hard to say anything........ but......... you are building the dream.

Do you sell those other frames in the background? They look like the frames Jesse used for his Harmon build.

[CanuDigIt]

Wow. Cant wait

[Toecutterp]

Good to see another Harman build. I have on going on. Got the parts gathered just need to mock it up

[smithcasey210]

yeah i also got some invader rims coming my way too...should be a pretty cool bike

[smithcasey210]

they are frames just like that going to some dudes in i think canada...bill is finishing it up still..

[Horst Heiler]

Cant wait to see! Say "Hi" to Bill Holland from me. He surely remember, Horst Heiler, the German ...

[JJ_Minnesota]

I can't wait to see this thing finished!

[glorydays]

Have fun! I had this for a long time and then let it go...

[Tattoo]

Very nice, I bet that was hard to sell?

Originally Posted by glorydays

Have fun! I had this for a long time and then let it go...

[Dave63]

So....Harmon's forks were basically designed to absorbed energy based on their length/flex?

Very cool, nostalgic look.

[Big Nick]

Originally Posted by Dave63

So....Harmon's forks were basically designed to absorbed energy based on their length/flex?

Very cool, nostalgic look.

No, they have a rocker on the bottom with the spring inside the rear leg of the springer.

[Dave63]

Cool. I didn't see that...... Couldn't get past the L E N G T H.

[Toecutterp]

Chime in time heres mine if i ever get e chance to work on it. Just picked a 68 Shovelhead motor to make it go down the road

[Tattoo]

An unbelievable smooth ride.

[71'Trump]

Fuck yeah!!! Cant wait to see that thing up and running. Gotta love a long bike and that front end is the icing on the cake.

[low and slow]

Killer! That seat is tits!

[danisdead]

You guys Suck (jealousy just took over)!!! I almost didn's see this thread, glad I did. Hey Toecutterp, what are those other front ends in the background??

[smithcasey210]

glory days that bike looks amazing!! super sad you offed it..but how much over is the front end mine is 24 over... and what frame is that?

[Toecutterp]

Wayne engineering Girder. Well the other one is a 1 of 3 first harman frontend. The footage in the history of the chopper of John Harman riding his pink? purple bike, it's the frontend off that very bike.

[sylantbill]

ToecutterP what kind of rear fender is that on your ride? Kinda like the one I am looking for.

[Toecutterp]

I made it out of FXE fender

[glorydays]

Originally Posted by Toecutterp

Wayne engineering Girder. Well the other one is a 1 of 3 first harman frontend. The footage in the history of the chopper of John Harman riding his pink? purple bike, it's the frontend off that very bike.

I'd love to find a wayne engineering single downloop frame...

[glorydays]

Originally Posted by smithcasey210

glory days that bike looks amazing!! super sad you offed it..but how much over is the front end mine is 24 over... and what frame is that?

18' over with a freddy hernandez gooseneck frame, performance machine invaders.. it was over 10 foot long...

[smithcasey210]

glory days my friend has a single down loop frame.. can you send me pictures of what a wayne engeneering single down loop frame looks like it may be one...smithcasey210@yahoo.com

[glorydays]

Yes i got a couple of pics.. i'll email you...

[smithcasey210]

let me know when you send it!! i dont wanna miss it in the spam folder if that happens!!

[danisdead]

Toecutterp,

You own a piece of history..awesome.

[chopit]

I bought that roller from glorydays got an 80" shovel and prism tank on it just haven't had enough time to finish it. I will never sell the Harmon front end. It's the coolest thing I own.

[knuckleerin]

Hey Smithcasey,
looks good thus far! Hey, what rake did Bill end up putting to the neck? I have a Harman 12 over sprider, (I know not really a long bike, but I like it). That I am matting to a Amen 50 degree frame... My first long build as well. Keep us posted!

[smithcasey210]

Well knuckleerin by john harmons skecthes of what it should be my 24 over will be raked at about 48-50 but we started at 46 to see how its gonnna sit and look and go from there...no progress right now on my bike cause i just picked up a 56 panhead flh so i will prob have another thread on that bike too....

[smithcasey210]

So more pictures i got the mock up done today and the degree it should sit at is about 52 degrees.. pictures mean more then words...so look away and its 8 foot from axle to axle....

[caveman]

nice to see a project with a 24" over harmon !!
thanks for the info on the rake because i have a 24" harmon myself and in the near future i will start making a frame for it, still can,t believe for myself that i,m living in belgium and be the proud owner of a 24" harmon

[el diablo]

Originally Posted by caveman

nice to see a project with a 24" over harman !!
thanks for the info on the rake because i have a 24" harman myself and in the near future i will start making a frame for it, still can,t believe for myself that i,m living in belgium and be the proud owner of a 24" harman

why not ?
i know 2 guys in belgium who are true fan's of those long harman front ends
one of them is you and the other danny

nice project ...smithcasey
great job on the frame !!

[Danny F.]

Originally Posted by smithcasey210

they are frames just like that going to some dudes in i think canada...bill is finishing it up still..

Lookin' good smithcasey..! How did you planned to build the neck..? gooseneck..? or are you planning to tilt the downtubes a little more forward maybe..? Because that's a long distance to the steering head now..

(Those Goldigger frames in the background are going to Italy...)

[smithcasey210]

bill and i are planning on cutting the downtubes and replacing it with new tube and heating it up and move it forward and wa la...welded by the man himself...fyi for all you guys bill is really the most giving nice guy i have ever met not cause he is the man and built this stuff but cause he really is....

[smithcasey210]

oh and here is a picture of the seat and rear invader rim i am using.. and i am lookin for a spooled 5 spoke invader if you guys have any laying around or know someone who does....

[smithcasey210]

Originally Posted by caveman

nice to see a project with a 24" over harman !!
thanks for the info on the rake because i have a 24" harman myself and in the near future i will start making a frame for it, still can,t believe for myself that i,m living in belgium and be the proud owner of a 24" harman

fyi caveman i am glad to see that type of stuff is all over the world.. cool to see everyones designs for harmon bikes....

[La Dolce]

This is sooo good.

[milehigh]

I heart seat.

[low and slow]

WOW that seat kicks ass!

[smithcasey210]

So John is in alot of my pics due to his big help so he told me i better get a picture of me in there so they dont think its his bike...haha well got the motor almost done just gotta get the rocker boxes shimmed and 2moro going to weld up the frame at bills hollands shop... here is some more pics...

[whipskipper]

That bike is going to be Sweet looking good man

[smithcasey210]

Ok so got the frame welded all up besides motor mount and other small stuff thanks to bill and john getting up to help me get this all together...what great friends i got here... well mocked it up in my garage and here is what it will kinda look like....let me know what you guys think..i am on the fence with the seat right now i really like it but not sure how its gonna look with it...oh yeah it measured out to being 54 degree rake..so nuts...bill said it will be just fine riding like that and the trail is at 1 1/2" out...so it will ride super nice bill says...

[Danny F.]

Much sleeker with the forward tilted downtubes..!

Personally I would go with a shorter (or no) backrest seat.. to compliment the typical overall low profile of a Harman front end & handlebar combo.. but again,that's just my 0.2 cents..

[Tattoo]

I too would like a lower seat better but it's not my bike!!!!!!

Originally Posted by Danny F.

Much sleeker with the forward tilted downtubes..!

Personally I would go with a shorter (or no) backrest seat.. to compliment the typical overall low profile of a Harman front end & handlebar combo.. but again,that's just my 0.2 cents..

[mr haney]

you will have a hard time fighting the chicks off, when you get that sucker rollin

[WTF D00D]

those front ends are amazing....beautiful bike.

[glorydays]

Cheetah needs to go.. JUst an opinion.. i would go with a ness type rear molded fender look too... But then again opinions are like assholes... keep on truckin... i would send you pics of the wayne engeneering single downloop but i can't scan....
-Junior

[lackluster]

Yep, the Cheetah NEEDS to go, I'll give you my mailing address so you know right where to send it! Seriously though,I dig the whole package as is, looks great!

[smithcasey210]

i know the lines dont look right to me with that seat on it...now if i had a24 over with the rabbit ear handle bars that he made i think that would look way better...i am still toyin with it and the fender is not the one i want just something to mock it up....if you guys find any pictures of some rad seats on a harmon bike like this send it to this post... thanks for the input guys...

[Danny F.]

Maybe you'll find a seat in this thread below..

http://www.jockeyjournal.com/forum/s...rman&showall=1

With a rabbit-ear style handlebar the prismic tank would be not really at home anymore imho.. (just my 0.2 cents..)

[smithcasey210]

good call danny...damn i am in a pickle...haha oh well i can always change the seat and sissy bar idea...not like thats tough you know. i can always change the tank too...oh well thanks danny and did you send bill chocolate before????

Originally Posted by Danny F.

Maybe you'll find a seat in this thread below..

http://www.jockeyjournal.com/forum/s...rman&showall=1

With a rabbit-ear style handlebar the prismic tank would be not really at home anymore imho.. (just my 0.2 cents..)

[low and slow]

Lovin this bike build!

[whtwter]

Maybe something a bit thinner on the seat? I really like the lines on this. Regardless it is looking great!

[Tattoo]

It's to shinny for me but that one awesome SOB.

Originally Posted by whtwter

Maybe something a bit thinner on the seat? I really like the lines on this. Regardless it is looking great!

[smithcasey210]

wow super duper clean... the lines look so nice on this..

Originally Posted by whtwter

Maybe something a bit thinner on the seat? I really like the lines on this. Regardless it is looking great!

[smithcasey210]

Motor all finished and ready to rebuild the transmission...here is a couple pics...

[bumbles]

You're so hot Casey.

Keep that seat, these guys are nerds.

Harmon only club. You're our newest member.

[brianwjessop]

Yeah the seat is BAD ASS, don't lose it.

[knuckleerin]

Leave the Cheetah. Long and tall. Small thin seats remind me of unhealthy super models.

[smithcasey210]

whats wrong with riding a unhealthy supermodel??? some of my best rides ever have come from chicks like that...hahahah

[muaythaitom]

I don't care what anybody says....love that seat, i would put on a tall ass sissybar too......that is one smooth bike

[smithcasey210]

so i decided that i am gonna bite the bullet and spend the money on a new front invader spool wheel...better to ride safe then save a couple of bucks....anyone local sacramento ca area were i can get the rim polished and nickled for cheap???

[whipskipper]

Casey Call AAA Plating 929-6895 they are over behind McClellan AFB I used them a couple months ago to get an oil tank Nickle plated and a few brakets. They do awesome work and quick turn around super nice guys.

Side note you going to the new years DEAD show

[hunterj]

prism tank is a good look

[smithcasey210]

hey buddy were they reasonable for the oil tank?>?? how much did it cost??? and did they have to polish it?? and what is the dead show???

Originally Posted by whipskipper

Casey Call AAA Plating 929-6895 they are over behind McClellan AFB I used them a couple months ago to get an oil tank Nickle plated and a few brakets. They do awesome work and quick turn around super nice guys.

Side note you going to the new years DEAD show

[smithcasey210]

thanks on the prisim tank too man i love that thing...

[Von Zacho]

Yes. Yes. Yes!

[whipskipper]

Originally Posted by smithcasey210

hey buddy were they reasonable for the oil tank?>?? how much did it cost??? and did they have to polish it?? and what is the dead show???

I had my after hours oil tank nickle plated for $80 once it come out of cheimical bath they pretty much just wipe it down with some metal polish and your done. If you want a brushed nickle finish they just hit it with a scoth brite. Came out awesome I also had a few brackets of raw Stainless that they polished for me came out mirror finish.

Furthur is playing in San Fran for new years eve they are Bob Weir and Phil Lesh from Grateful dead. Best Greatful Dead sound since Jerry Died they are killer if you like that kind of music.

[Regulator]

Originally Posted by Toecutterp

Chime in time heres mine if i ever get e chance to work on it. Just picked a 68 Shovelhead motor to make it go down the road

I am soooo fucking jealous....that is gonna be sweet as is the originator of this threads' bike...

I'll just keep gathering parts for my "Denvers Choppers" look-a-like bike while wishing it was a Harmon build....waa waa...

Good luck to you on that build...both of you...I can't wait to see the results of both builds...

Larry in MD

[smithcasey210]

bumbbles lets make some honey together!! i heart you!!

Originally Posted by bumbles

You're so hot Casey.

Keep that seat, these guys are nerds.

Harmon only club. You're our newest member.

[smithcasey210]

oh fuck yes i wann gooooooooo.........i am such a dead head i love the sirus channel of them... and i got a guy if the shit is alreay polished that will dip whatever you can fit in a 3x3 container for $80...

Originally Posted by whipskipper

I had my after hours oil tank nickle plated for $80 once it come out of cheimical bath they pretty much just wipe it down with some metal polish and your done. If you want a brushed nickle finish they just hit it with a scoth brite. Came out awesome I also had a few brackets of raw Stainless that they polished for me came out mirror finish.

Furthur is playing in San Fran for new years eve they are Bob Weir and Phil Lesh from Grateful dead. Best Greatful Dead sound since Jerry Died they are killer if you like that kind of music.

[theberg]

AWesome!

[Griff]

Wow, I thought it was just me, I got a 22" Harmon front end, some invaders and a prismic tank plus all sorts of period goodies I've been collecting for about two years now, just saving up for a frame.
(Glorydays - you shoulda sold me that roller )
Griff

[glorydays]

Originally Posted by Griff

Wow, I thought it was just me, I got a 22" Harmon front end, some invaders and a prismic tank plus all sorts of period goodies I've been collecting for about two years now, just saving up for a frame.
(Glorydays - you shoulda sold me that roller )
Griff

well sell me you're drag Bike Magneto cover...

[hollywood Jon]

Grateful Dead + Choppers = Rick Fairless WTF?

[smithcasey210]

Just got my front rim 5 spoke spool all welded up and almost ready for mock up...just gotta polish the rims and nickle plate them!

[smithcasey210]

no rims back yet but have painted the tank yellow for a mock up color to see how it look and with the input from my friends my favorite idea was yellow background with gold inserts in eachpanel and a dark brown edges on the gold

[crider]

awesome build. I think I'm in love. with your bike that is.

[caveman]

looking good so far

[smithcasey210]

so here is a mini update for holiday cheer..got my invaders all chromed up for wayyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy cheap and they turned out so so good..check it out.. and here is a mock up pic with the invaders semi on the bike. the top tree on the harmon front is not on but you get the idea of the stance of the bike

[danisdead]

Woo hoo, that is holiday cheer!

[lackluster]

Very sexy. I NEED to build a long bike!

[model-a-fan]

< jizzed

[smithcasey210]

winner of best comment goes to model a fan jizzed hahahah love it....yeah guys cant wait to get the tires put on and alxes all tied in and so i can push it around the block!!! helllllllllz yeah

[muaythaitom]

I don't think that is really the kind of bike that you want. Definatley looks too long and like it wont handle well, plus that old of an engine.....yeah, you should definatley sell it to me instead.----seriously though....I love long bikes and i have been drooling over this thread since you started it---seriously cool bike and very nice work---can't wait to see it finished

[Danny F.]

Porn on X-Mas day...!
Nice lines right there..

[smithcasey210]

OK guys i am sorry i have been laggin sooo much on this build but just finished building my 56 pan....so now i am gonna lite a fire under my ass and build this bike with bill holland side by side...gonna be awsome...so finally decided that i am gonna put my 48 pan shovel in there that is a stroker motor....gonna haul ass...motor all fully rebuilt and gotta just figure out what i want all in there...pictures will be coming soon and a play by play on this bike...see ya guys soon!

[servi53]

can't wait to see more

[dead pirate]

cant wait to see more pics man this one is coming along nicely. i got a sporty in a paugcho fram thats got a 45 degree rake and im thinking of a long springer instead of my wide glide front end. the only problem is they have no turning radius blah lol oh well i dont mind doing a 72 point roll around to back into a space.

[smithcasey210]

Time to start getting this bike all together with Bill Holland and make all the brackets and fender mounts ..and blah blah blah

[3Gknuck]

That has the best lines you do
It man!!!!!!!

[Danny F.]

Amount of forward stretch and longer rear section makes it sit just right !
Usually I'm not a fan of longer rear sections, but this one works !
Bitchin' !

[RAGBAK]

sweet as!!!

ps; what's up with the "Holland" sign in the back!??

[Spidermartin]

man that takes me back to the days. I used to see these swithblades in my families shop, in the 70s. Even pedal bikes had the long front ends. The bike is at the event 10 minutes before you arrive!!! Goog luck, thanx for the memories

[Search and Destroy]

Yeah, this is ruling.

[Danny F.]

Originally Posted by RAGBAK

ps; what's up with the "Holland" sign in the back!??

I would say Bill Holland...

[smithcasey210]

Glad you guys are liking it so far..and the motor is a stroker 48 panshovel ...and the holland sign is holland for bill holland and this is his shop!

[smithcasey210]

Glad its bringing back some good memories for ya...

Originally Posted by Spidermartin

man that takes me back to the days. I used to see these swithblades in my families shop, in the 70s. Even pedal bikes had the long front ends. The bike is at the event 10 minutes before you arrive!!! Goog luck, thanx for the memories

[smithcasey210]

Thanks ryan...cant wait to boogie this thing...i will ride it to born free

Originally Posted by 3Gknuck

That has the best lines you do
It man!!!!!!!

[smithcasey210]

Thanks Danny i cant wait to ride the piss out this beast!!

Originally Posted by Danny F.

Amount of forward stretch and longer rear section makes it sit just right !
Usually I'm not a fan of longer rear sections, but this one works !
Bitchin' !

[smithcasey210]

So working little by little getting this Harmon bike all done... Making my own oil bag from scratch...Had to have the legend Bill weld it up...and also cut in frame to have clearance for the juice drum and making brake stay also with legendary John Barry....Im a lucky dude to have such a good friend like Bill and John ...Tried to upload pics but no luck but will try again soon guys!!

Casey

[smithcasey210]

Had to fit the juice drum brake so notched out the frame and also made a brake stay....

[Loffer]

Super cool, How long is that thing? gotta be over 10 ft?

[BigDawg]

I'd have sex with that bike so far.

[smithcasey210]

its roughly 10'6" long gonna be a beast to handle...i cant wait....and i have had sex with it many times already!! hahah

[dead pirate]

it has probably already been asked but where did you get this rim and do they make them for the rear to be able to run a disk brake on? i am in the process of getting some parts together to do mine (1974 ironhead) and would love to have invaders for my build since it is raked and i will be putting a longer front end on it.

Originally Posted by smithcasey210

so i decided that i am gonna bite the bullet and spend the money on a new front invader spool wheel...better to ride safe then save a couple of bucks....anyone local sacramento ca area were i can get the rim polished and nickled for cheap???

[Hotrod396]

Thats damn cool..don't see those harmon frontends around much..even the new ones!

I'll post some pics of my mini chopper i built with a 70's harmon in an other thread...nice freakin job bro

[flchingon]

Coming along great...Cant wait to see this done...Excellent work

[zlusmc]

Awesome build man. I am usually all about spoked wheels, but those look nice as shit on that bike.

[smithcasey210]

Thanks guys im pretty excited about riding this bike all over....and the paint job will be pretty sweet too....

[selectedgrub]

Like!!

[smithcasey210]

I got 10 days off coming up so i am planning on hammering the fab work out with Bill Holland...more pics coming soon!

[smithcasey210]

moving a little more forward with the bike...got oil bag done and mounted and being retarded fucking with a 10 dollar taillight...fender just needs to be finished welded up...

[BigDawg]

Ah man, I was in love with this thing and looking forward to updates, but I have to admit I don't like the prism tank. That's just my shitty opinion though.

[Markee]

Very cool, the fuel and oil tank look great.

[twowheeledhell]

Hate to do this, but this thread has a lot of lovers watching......old Harmon front end on Ebay on the west side of the continent-If you've already seen it....forgive me.

Justen

EBAY ITEM #: 220976785685

[Loffer]

It's working for me.

[XsSpeed]

That's sweet!!

[smithcasey210]

Thanks guys for all the input.. i may be mia for a while due to finishing this damn thing before born free to ride it out to the show...but hopefully updates will be soon!

[zlusmc]

That thing is looking awesome man.

[Bodyworx]

That seat gives me wood. Love the whole project.

[6T Sinner]

Casey gives me would. Woulda coulda shoulda had a Harmon!

[Haynuzband]

I love long bikes!

[smithcasey210]

Some more pics of the bike...so Bill took the bike off the lift for a min and i fell in love all over again!!! I need to get on this asap!!

[smithcasey210]

grass valley gives me wood..

[Zeeman]

Fuck, that looks great. Everything flows together so well.. keep up the good work!

[Danny F.]

Nice right there.. I never leave a project on the lift table during the complete build..
Always get it off there from time to time.. seeing a bike at eye level is never the same as when it's on the ground..

[smithcasey210]

Here is a couple pics of it not finished painted....

[Loffer]

Love this bike , hows the handling?

[Dragstews]

If it's like all the other Harmon forks on bikes that I had the pleasure of riding...
It's awesome....

One finger on the bars will turn the forks ....Did I say AWESOME..??
The ones that was over 18" seemed to be a little harsh on suspension..
But ..I'm sure it would be nothing at all to get use to....

Love the looks of this Long bike.... RIGHT-ON ......

[Tattoo]

Originally Posted by Dragstews

If it's like all the other Harmon forks on bikes that I had the pleasure of riding...
It's awesome....

One finger on the bars will turn the forks ....Did I say AWESOME..??
The ones that was over 18" seemed to be a little harsh on suspension..
But ..I'm sure it would be nothing at all to get use to....

My Harmon Knuckle is AWESOME NO flop what so ever. The BEST long bike I have even ridden. Bar none,

[Dragstews]

Originally Posted by Tattoo

My Harmon Knuckle is AWESOME NO flop what so ever. The BEST long bike I have even ridden. Bar none,

Kinda wild how it returns to center...with no effort from the rider..!!

I keep asking myself.....How the Hell did he do that..??

Seems to deify the ..."Laws of Psychics"....

[Tattoo]

Originally Posted by Dragstews

Kinda wild how it returns to center...with no effort from the rider..!!

I keep asking myself.....How the Hell did he do that..??

Seems to deify the ..."Laws of Psychics"....

I know, Until I got the Harmon on and rode it I had no idea how sweet the ride was. I had never ridden a bike with one before. Plus before I bought this one I had never seen one as far as I could remember. My Knuck had a standard girder front end on it when I bought it that I hated.