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Old 05-21-2009, 09:27 PM   #1
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I'm looking for a new rigid frame. I've had a few and I wanted some other opinions. I want a stock rake, preferablely a 4- speed.
I've had a Paughco and there cheap with poor welds.
I have a Kraft Tech and I think it's a rally good frame. It's tig welded beautifully but The fitment wasn't perfect and I want a straight backbone for a Frisco style gas tank. Thanks for any suggestions.
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I have heard really good things about flyrite frames.

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My Paughco's holding up fine, and I ride the shit out of it, when it runs. They've been around for awhile for a reason... I can't comment on others, never owned anything but the paughco and stock frames, sorry.

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Build your own. Nothin like seeing your own ride completely built by you on the street,

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I have been thinking about a Flyrite. I like there lines, are they tig welded?
I've also thought about a Spartan, but I don't now much about them, how much, availability? I know there built well, I her nothing but good things about George.
My friend has broken a Paughco frame now it's happened to me, sux!
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flyrite.
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I love my Flyrite frame. I cant wait to jump stuff and wheelie the crap out of it. Thick tubing and the welds are like art. Affordable on anyones pay. Built in the USA. MSO included..The list can go on. No reason to buy from anywhere else
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Chopper guys.......................Roach.
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Build your own. Nothin like seeing your own ride completely built by you on the street,

I don't have the time or the energy right know. I do make some of my own shit but I'd rather pay someone else at this time.
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STP, nice frame!
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Thanks! This wasnt easy, but it wasnt as hard as some make it out to be.
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Chopper guys.......................Roach.
Roach those are good lookin frames, but it looks like there mostly for wide tires.
I like 130mm rear tires. I'm going to contact them, thanks
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Tigman is in your neighborhood. Quality frames and welding all the way. He can even build one where you don't have to smash the living shit out of the seat post!
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Tigman is in your neighborhood. Quality frames and welding all the way. He can even build one where you don't have to smash the living shit out of the seat post!
Who's Tigman? Does he have a site or any contact info.
I do want someone reputable because I don't want to make the same mistake. I want to hear good things from multiple people or have a successful business like Flyrite before i purchase.
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Build your own. Nothin like seeing your own ride completely built by you on the street,

build your own? I think that is totally rad to do it yourself, but who can go out and by a 15,000 dollar tube bender?
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15,000 For A Tube Bender? ------roflmao!
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Spartan. George and Wendy rock, you'll get the best customer service in the world, the best frame ever (to your dimensions) and put money in the pocket of a small business. Can't beat that!
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Roach those are good lookin frames, but it looks like there mostly for wide tires.
I like 130mm rear tires. I'm going to contact them, thanks
Sorry I read the post wrong. Good luck in your search
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15,000? look through my posts and try $15 for the bolts and about 20 for the natural gas I burned while casting my dies. And I cant believe you would say that cause I dont think you spent 15,00 just to build your Norton Mr. Snortin

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Tigman in MA does good work, his welds are amazing. He just did a one off frame for my friend that came out great.
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My Spartan frame is the nicest frame I've ever seen.
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Call George at Spartan Frameworks... Buy a springer or a girder from him to go with the frame...
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Go Spartan. If you can't afford them, then go flyrite. I have a whole lotta miles on my Flyrite and absolutely no issues.
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dick at atlas frames builds really nice frames and he is pretty reasonable. i believe he is in apple valley
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we have had some good success with frames from MIDWEST....we just finished out our 5th rigid 200 series build with their frame and even their super cheap 6 speed too...both have done really good for us....
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Like I said earlier, George makes great frames. Buti if they're out of your price range we've seen some very nice frames from Cycle One Manufacturing.
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It looks like an 8 year old cut, bent, assembled and welded my Paughco frame. With that being said I definitely would not suggest getting one from them.

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Ive been checking out frames as well, I always seem to end up back at the Flyrite site. is there a dealer in cali for Flyrite or just ship from tx
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I dont think Flyrite do a 4 speed frame..

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Chassis Design he is one of the best. He'll make you anything you want.

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I think his website is TanksbyTig.com or something like that. He is a member here and on many other boards. Grail(member here) has a lot of video on his site of his work. He is very talented. He can fab./weld like a MOFO
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I dont think Flyrite do a 4 speed frame..

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I thought they did but I'm not sure. I saw some of Flyrites bikes at the Smokeout east last week. I wish I inspected the frames a little closer. I've purchased a license plate bracket and seat hinge from them and they were both well made.
I dig that new Drifter bike, it's a gooseneck frame, really nice looking.
I'm kinda leaning towards a oem style frame.
Tigman is getting some nod's, I'm going to check him out.
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Hey nice meeting you at the S.O., My opinion is that you cant go wrong with an oem or repop wishbone , another alternative is oem swingarm hardtailed by fab kevin using the forged axle plates that way you get all the benefits of quality and coolness wrapped around an hd title.
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RC Components in Bowling Green, KY. They do customized work as far as I know. Thick walled DOM and very nice TIG welded frames.
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+1 on Spartan. They aren't cheap but you will not regret the investment. Redneck also makes a very high quality frame but it might not look right on a skinny.
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Hey nice meeting you at the S.O., My opinion is that you cant go wrong with an oem or repop wishbone , another alternative is oem swingarm hardtailed by fab kevin using the forged axle plates that way you get all the benefits of quality and coolness wrapped around an hd title.
Hey Capino, it was good meeting you, hope you had a good time at the SOE.
I do love Kevin's oem style axle plates, I meet him at the SOE and his parts are unbeliveveable in person, works of art.
I'm thinking of buying a set of those axle plates from Kevin and maybe George can build me a frame with them.
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+1 for Tigman.

I recently had Dave build me a dropseat goosenecked frame for my CB project and it's great. He's got the skills, and at a fair price. His work speaks for itself. Check him out at World Class Welding Mechanics or the tanksbytigman reference.

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Best in the world.. Spartan Frameworks. Stay tuned for a more economical version.. George is the man and some new stuff is coming soon!
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I saw the Spartan Frames up close at the Biltwell Bash. I made my living as a welder for a government contractor. I can tell you that the fitment, quality, craftsmanship, and welding of the Spartan Frames is unsurpassed. And he uses the same chrome moly tubing used on a Baja 1000 Trophy truck!
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Yes, the big twin frames are 4-speed frames.


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Best in the world.. Spartan Frameworks. Stay tuned for a more economical version.. George is the man and some new stuff is coming soon!
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Thanks for all the compliments!

Spartan Frameworks is back full time now.

Although our chrome molly frames are priced @ $2500 we are working on DOM steel frames that should be around $1200.

Give a call if we can help you out!

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I'm looking for a new rigid frame. I've had a few and I wanted some other opinions. I want a stock rake, preferablely a 4- speed.
I've had a Paughco and there cheap with poor welds.
I have a Kraft Tech and I think it's a rally good frame. It's tig welded beautifully but The fitment wasn't perfect and I want a straight backbone for a Frisco style gas tank. Thanks for any suggestions.
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I've run Paughco's on my builds, and they are perfectly fine, strong, and economical. They are even better when you take the time to clean the MIG weld splatter off, clean welds smooth, and "adjust" them to your specs. Every Indian Larry bike started off with a Paughco, you cannot be afraid to use them as just a starting point.

If you order a 30* neck, 0-up, 0-out for a SHOVELHEAD, you will get a perfectly flat backbone. If you buy the Jireh Cycles $700 version of that frame, you get a longer seat post for an EVO engine that will give it a kink in the back, but I have always hid that with a Frisco tank, nobody ever noticed. I have run both the chopper necks and the HD necks, the HD neck looks very much like a OEM panhead rigid frame in front, but wont allow you to do any crazy +2 up type mods that look so mean on a city-raked bike.

For the most beautiful chopper frame on the planet, George at Spartan makes the most awsome, strong, lightweight frame ever built this side of a Works CR450R. I will most likely be putting my Knuck engine in a Spartan, as it deserves a frame of that caliber.

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This is simply the best news I've read in a long time.

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There has been a few (which is more than enough) threads on the club chopper forums regarding WCC frames cracking or having shitty welds. That's not entirely accurate. He used quite a few frames from a company called Diamond Chassis Machine out of Riverside, CA. -Chris

Yes, and so did Mondo and Billy Lane and a bunch of other people when they were doing mid, reverse rake and long bikes. Diamond's owner quit making them, gave the business to his son, who then shut it down. Larry's most recent batch (and the most famous of his builds, including Chain of Mystery) were all modified Paughco's.

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Yes, and so did Mondo and Billy Lane and a bunch of other people when they were doing mid, reverse rake and long bikes. Diamond's owner quit making them, gave the business to his son, who then shut it down. Larry's most recent batch (and the most famous of his builds, including Chain of Mystery) were all modified Paughco's.

Not tryin to start a shit or anything but you did say EVERY. If Larry used a different brand (when available) over Paughco then that in its self says Paughco wasn't his first choice of frame.

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This is the type of shit that leaves the Paughco factory.




Now if you don't know what your looking at, the downtubes are totally crooked. Because the engine mount's bolt to the downtubes new ones had to be made to use this frame.







Paughco likes to use the ol heat and hammer trick a lot which can be seen in the pictures above.


Keep in mind that whats listed above isn't even half of the issues this frame has. Its plagued with nasty welds and tons of weld spatter amung other things.

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Well, I am not going to get into a what did Indian Larry use 100% of the time debate, if I misworded my original post, then oh well.

Indian Larry used Paughco frames ALOT, and if you ever listen to his interview on Biker Buildoff when he built two bikes, he says that, on camera.

Next, the horrific smashed downtube crooked ugly ass frame. One question:

Why is the frame painted with gobs of crappy black paint?

Paughco never delivers a frame painted, period.

Thus, some yahoo hillrod smashed down the frame to fit some idiotic part, or it was dropped and dragged on pavement or some shit, and then someone PAINTED it (poorly).

If a frame was that bad directly from Paughco, who in the hell would actually paint it? It would be returned ASAP.

Whatever, this is why I left the JJ years ago, dumb ass shit.

Buy whatever frame you want guys, I highly suggest a KraftTech frame, 1-1/8 tube, 40* rake, 4 out, 4 up, to fit a 250 tire. Just like a ClubChopper Journal biker.
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Well, I am not going to get into a what did Indian Larry use 100% of the time debate, if I misworded my original post, then oh well.

Indian Larry used Paughco frames ALOT, and if you ever listen to his interview on Biker Buildoff when he built two bikes, he says that, on camera.

Next, the horrific smashed downtube crooked ugly ass frame. One question:

Why is the frame painted with gobs of crappy black paint?

Paughco never delivers a frame painted, period.

Thus, some yahoo hillrod smashed down the frame to fit some idiotic part, or it was dropped and dragged on pavement or some shit, and then someone PAINTED it (poorly).

If a frame was that bad directly from Paughco, who in the hell would actually paint it? It would be returned ASAP.

Whatever, this is why I left the JJ years ago, dumb ass shit.

Buy whatever frame you want guys, I highly suggest a KraftTech frame, 1-1/8 tube, 40* rake, 4 out, 4 up, to fit a 250 tire. Just like a ClubChopper Journal biker.

I don't remember saying the frame was brand new. The frame is far from new but definitely all stock.

I guess your eyes are as bad as your ability to read because there are no gobs of paint present.

What Paughco did with the heat and hammer is very common on they're Sportster frames. I don't know if it still happens but it used to a lot.

If this "dumb ass shit" is bothering you that much maybe you should leave again.

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Dude don't be an ass. Dr. Jett has been a huge asset to this board over the years and it sucked to lose his knowledge. Chill the fuck out.
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Dude don't be an ass. Dr. Jett has been a huge asset to this board over the years and it sucked to lose his knowledge. Chill the fuck out.

- He posted wrong information (regarding Larry's frames)

- I called him on it (trying to be civil)

- I contributed info to this thread (pictures posted above as well as MY opinion)

- He then goes on to shit on my frame and then gets bent out of shape because my opinion wasn't the same as his

And somehow I'm the one who's out of line. Some of you guys crack me up.

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I bought a 30 degree 0 stretch 0 rake kraftech frame for my Evo build and it looks good to me. Of course this is my first build and it was reasonably priced. I really liked that it had most of the stock mounts on there since I don't have a lot of tools to make my own.
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- I called him on it (trying to be civil)

- I contributed info to this thread (pictures posted above as well as MY opinion)

- He then goes on to shit on my frame and then gets bent out of shape because my opinion wasn't the same as his

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Haha, White Nightmare I guess your signature and avitar have pigeon holed you. I agree with White Nightmare though, he was being civil. Oh well I guess you can't get away from the internet tough guys on any forum. I wish I had something to contribute on the actual thread topic, but I am on my first bike build and it's a BSA. Good info for me though, for when I can afford a harley motor. Haha...Oi!
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Haha, White Nightmare I guess your signature and avitar have pigeon holed you. I agree with White Nightmare though, he was being civil. Oh well I guess you can't get away from the internet tough guys on any forum. I wish I had something to contribute on the actual thread topic, but I am on my first bike build and it's a BSA. Good info for me though, for when I can afford a harley motor. Haha...Oi!
Cretin, white nightmare.... tuff guy names, funny thing is I use my real name and know lots and lots of people here personally... Like in real life. So fuck off kook
Do you even have a bike youve built, either one of you?
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This is the type of shit that leaves the Paughco factory.

aughco likes to use the ol heat and hammer trick a lot which can be seen in the pictures above.

Keep in mind that whats listed above isn't even half of the issues this frame has. Its plagued with nasty welds and tons of weld spatter amung other things.

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That is not a Paughco frame. I have used a bunch of those frames and they are an excellent choice for a guy on a budget. Solid welds and nice fitment always from Paughco.
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I have a Santee rigid I purchased in '01 that has been on the road four 4 years. The fit is excellent and it is holding up quite well. I don't get to put as many miles on it as I used too but I'm really happy with it.
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Osprey,
Check out Acme Choppers. I'm running one of their frames on my xs and they made exactly what I wanted ( single downtube , looptail). everything fit perfect, beautiful, quality tig welded frame.
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I also had an 03 santee rigid sporty frame that they modified for me, thats held up for years now.
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Putting one together now with a kraftech. Nice beefy look with the big tubes, great welds and everything fits. Paid $700 new from Mid-USA last month.
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I'm not gonna try to identify white nightmare's frame but it seems that any unidentifiable frame is always a Paughco. Maybe it is and maybe it isn't. But either way this is gonna turn into an opinion arguement so I hope everyone is prepare for that. As for white nightmare's feeling being hurt here, dude, you posted pix of your frame so be prepared for any opinions you here. Get the thick skin on. We all have to hear it once in a while.

Now I just repaired a WCC frame with a cracked backbone so I can believe that statement.

George at Spartan makes real nice shit, No question to that.

And to throw it out there I can make a damn nice frame too.

Now let's lay off the clown boots, ok. I'm wearing mine right now...oi!
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Schwinn makes a pretty nice frame for adolescents.
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Let's be nice boys, I don't want this thread getting shut down.
I appreciate all the knowledge I get from here. You guys know your shit, it's humbling at times.
Larry did use Paughco frams, he would beef up the rear section by cross welding extra tubes just like Paul Cox does.
I do love the look of the Paughco, I bought it from them not Jireh.
I expected more for what I paid. I have some experience in fabrication.
I went too school for 5 years for pipefitting and welding and have been in the business for 15 years.
I know some of the best welders in New Jersey.
My friend Jitterbug builds his own drag racers from scratch.
I do love Krafttech frames, have one on my shovel, great welds good quality.
I will fix the Paughco frame and it will be fine, I also want a 4-speed and a little different look.
I'm also jonesing to build something new.
I have contacted George and Fab Kevin too maybe hardtail my frame or I might just buy the kit from him.
I don't have the best hand with a tig welder, I just bought my first one and I'm kinda a novice. I'm not confident enough to do my own frame yet.
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You made a great choice!
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I'm not gonna try to identify white nightmare's frame but it seems that any unidentifiable frame is always a Paughco. Maybe it is and maybe it isn't. But either way this is gonna turn into an opinion arguement so I hope everyone is prepare for that. As for white nightmare's feeling being hurt here, dude, you posted pix of your frame so be prepared for any opinions you here. Get the thick skin on. We all have to hear it once in a while.

Now I just repaired a WCC frame with a cracked backbone so I can believe that statement.

George at Spartan makes real nice shit, No question to that.

And to throw it out there I can make a damn nice frame too.

Now let's lay off the clown boots, ok. I'm wearing mine right now...oi!
My friend Boon broke his WCC backbone, I was shocked. He rides that fucker off curbs and other shit.
Mike it might be the same bike, small world!
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Mike it might be the same bike, small world!
Indeed it is. Pix. of it in my Jock Shop thread. Any bike that long with telescopic front end that goes off of curbs and similar abuse is gonna have issues.
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Indeed it is. Pix. of it in my Jock Shop thread. Any bike that long with telescopic front end that goes off of curbs and similar abuse is gonna have issues.
Thats funny, yeah I think the frame is 38 dgrees and the trees are about 4 degrees. With that much rake and riding like that all the stress goes right to the backbone.
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Thats funny, yeah I think the frame is 38 dgrees and the trees are about 4 degrees. With that much rake and riding like that all the stress goes right to the backbone.
It's more the riding than the rake. My frame is 43*. Hopefully he can take it easy after all the money he spent on it now. I'd hate to have to fix it again. He can ride off of curbs, just got to go slow. He ought to have all his stuff back from paint in a week or so I think. He'll be tearing up the sidewalks in no time.
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It's a Paughco frame. I have seen other Sportster frames from them with similar problems.


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As for white nightmare's feeling being hurt here, dude, you posted pix of your frame so be prepared for any opinions you here. Get the thick skin on. We all have to hear it once in a while.
Trust me man I am far from hurt. There are just civil ways of sharing opinions. I guess it's easy for people to be assholes when it's over the internet.


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Issues will arise with any frame pushed pasted its design, jumping curbs usually isn't on the list. But keep in mind drilling holes to hide wiring in the wrong places can become trouble, improper frame shimming, painting motor/tranny mating surfaces, can lead to loose motor/tranny bolts causing frame cracks.

But you have to be higher than a birds dick to thank that west coast frames (which are no longer available) are poorly built. Pretty impressive actually.
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Please don't think I said WCC were poorly built. I said I repaired one and heard about a few others (No, I have no proof). But I'm not alone in hearing it. It was .120 wall Dom tubing cracked right at the edge of the frame gusset. Completely around. I'm sure hard riding didn't help. If it cracked at a joint I would be suspicious of workmanship but in the middle of the tube I blame either design or owner treatment. As Ospey and I know, the owner rides like a nut. But who am I say that.
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One of the biggest failures any frame can experience is the lack of proper shimming of parts, not using washers under fasteners (of the correct size), and generally forcing things into place. Rear axle spacers cut exactly to length, to not overly stress the rear legs comes to mind on a proper build, and running at least 8lbs. of drag force the steering head bearings keeps the front fork from hammering the up-tubes and steering head.

Sleeving holes drilled for tank mounts and gusseting frame tabs and mounts is also a good idea to help the frame stay alive.

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I been running the Flyrite Smoking Gun for nearly Two years. The English roads are really F$%ked up at the moment, the worst potholed winter damage for years. Frame is holding up super good, can't say the same for my fillings!





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I hear ya. Don't think that, its all good.

I'm curious when he got that frame. Because the ones i've worked on and seen have had a .250 wall backbone.

The area that it cracked seems it could have been a combo of three things or just one of them. Vibration, abuse and the stock design of the CFL gusset that doesn't connect head tube and top motor mount.

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Please don't think I said WCC were poorly built. I said I repaired one and heard about a few others (No, I have no proof). But I'm not alone in hearing it. It was .120 wall Dom tubing cracked right at the edge of the frame gusset. Completely around. I'm sure hard riding didn't help. If it cracked at a joint I would be suspicious of workmanship but in the middle of the tube I blame either design or owner treatment. As Ospey and I know, the owner rides like a nut. But who am I say that.
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Old 05-23-2009, 04:41 PM   #92
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+1 on "Chopper Guys". super high quality....
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Old 05-23-2009, 10:32 PM   #93
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I heard an interesting thought today about bitching..."They don't call it dude-ing."

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