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Old 04-10-2009, 12:55 PM   #1
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*UPDATE: I DID PURCHASE IT FOR $1500!!! *
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hey,

i got a line on 78 iron head, looks real nice in the pic but the guy said he took it to a shop to have the motor and tranny re-built. shop had it about 6 mos. wehn he got it back he said it worked 3 days then got stuck in 4th gear and clutch will not disengauge

I can get it for 1500, what do you all think...

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Old 04-10-2009, 01:02 PM   #2
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I bought an 83 Ironhead from a board member for cheap cause it had engine prob.'s-----only wound up costing me a few hundred bucks to have a good running Ironhead a couple weeks later----I was happier than a pig in shit, and still am --love the bike. Go for it---what's the worst that happens? You have to spend a lil more than you want?
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Old 04-10-2009, 01:02 PM   #3
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I wouldn't pay that much. If it was a running and riding 78, that would be OK, but not with trans problems.
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Old 04-10-2009, 01:05 PM   #4
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here is a pic
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Old 04-10-2009, 01:16 PM   #5
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I would buy it... Ironhead tranny parts are plentyfull, bet you can get it on the road for under $500..... 2k for a running IH is a great deal....
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Old 04-10-2009, 02:04 PM   #6
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Both were common problems back then. I worked in the HD shops back then and we saw this all the time. It sounds like the clutch adjuster lock nut backed off, allowing the adjuster screw to back out, making it hard to shift. That cased the rider shift too hard poping the shifter shaft ball out of the shift unit in the trans. This clutch set-up also stuck when it sat for a month or more due to it's Wet clutch design. You will need a clutch pak compressor (easy to make) to pull the clutch, maybe/maybe not a trap door puller and a manual, to fix it. Unless the shift fork got bent (be sure to check them) it should only cost you a primary gasket?, oil, your time and your mind!
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Old 04-10-2009, 02:16 PM   #7
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I would buy it for shure.........................Roach.
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Old 04-10-2009, 02:22 PM   #8
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As long as you can do the mechanical stuff and the price is right, It's a good deal. All the AMF crap that gave these years of Harleys such a Bad rap has been delt with by now and overall they were good bikes. Now the bike will only be as good as the mechanic thats working on it..
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Old 04-10-2009, 02:48 PM   #9
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Buy it. Those four speed gear boxes are easy to work on. I think its a Kawasaki clutch setup for that year. I made a tool out of a piece of 1/4" steel & some 1/4" all thread, nuts and washers to compress the spring.
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Old 04-10-2009, 03:14 PM   #10
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Buy it.
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Old 04-10-2009, 03:21 PM   #11
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I would have bought it already. If you weren't so far from me, I'd be trying to figure out how to buy it out from under you. LOL
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Old 04-10-2009, 05:05 PM   #12
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It says that the price is firm.

Just goes to show, it never hurts to ask. Nice buy.
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Old 04-10-2009, 05:58 PM   #13
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well, the deal is done... dude and his wife dropped off the bike and we did the paper work...
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Old 04-10-2009, 06:00 PM   #14
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Stuck in gear is easily overcome. $1500 for a $3500 bike. Sounds like a good deal to me, if that's the bike you want and you want to work on it.
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Old 04-12-2009, 03:09 PM   #15
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i know it's Easter and all... but I had to rip that cover off!
guy I bought it from said the clutch would not engage, but it seems to be working fine to me... there was a little slop in the lever so i took it up with the adjuster at the engine case end (no adjuster on the lever itself) and it works fine. just stuck in 4th.... pull in clucth rock bike and it frees up, leave out clutch and its in 4th... Shifter shaft just flops up and down like it is not hooked up to anything.... just click click no resistance like its just clicking against the case...

Tore the cover off with no problems, cover did have a new gasket with permatex over it...

Guess I need to figure out how to make the clutch puller you all are talking about...

Happy Easter!
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Old 04-12-2009, 06:10 PM   #16
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buy buy buy! bent shift fork or busted cam foller. easy fiix and cheap. if you get it and need it i have a 4 speed out of a 77 bolts right in you can have cheap good luck
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Take some 3/16" x 1 1/2" flat stock long enough to cross over the plug in the pressure plate and two cover bolt holes 180* apart. Use bolts with spacers long enough to locate the flat stock aprox. 2" above the pressure plate plug. Use a 5/16" bolt with a nut on the plate side and screw the bolt in depressing the pressure plate enough to remove the nuts on the studs. Best I can remember this year had a non adtustable pressure plate, achived with spacers on the studs. Pay attention to the number of threads showing on the studs just in case.
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Old 04-12-2009, 06:28 PM   #18
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Could be a little 45 cent spring in the pawl-carrier....Boy, if that wouldn't be a easy fix...
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Old 04-12-2009, 06:43 PM   #19
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Take some 3/16" x 1 1/2" flat stock long enough to cross over the plug in the pressure plate and two cover bolt holes 180* apart. Use bolts with spacers long enough to locate the flat stock aprox. 2" above the pressure plate plug. Use a 5/16" bolt with a nut on the plate side and screw the bolt in depressing the pressure plate enough to remove the nuts on the studs. Best I can remember this year had a non adtustable pressure plate, achived with spacers on the studs. Pay attention to the number of threads showing on the studs just in case.
thanks! that will be my project this week... I found this picture online looks really easy... what do you think? (I'm a little slow sometimes and pics always help me out...)
I could make that real quick....
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Old 04-12-2009, 07:24 PM   #20
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It looks like the flat stock wasn't thick enough and started to bend so they stuck the wood in there and used the case studs to depress the pressure plate. It would work but minght be a bit close to some of the studs and be a bit of a pain.
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