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Old 06-08-2008, 01:02 PM   #1
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I've got an old B&H shifter and mousetrap (missing its spring) that I've had for years and a collector is pestering me to sell it. I had not really thought about selling it till now and I have no idea what it is worth. Anybody out there have any idea as to its value? KP
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Old 06-08-2008, 01:44 PM   #2
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last one I had, I sold to a friend for 250. But, it was really two complete shifter setups and one full mousetrap plus a mousetrap frame. To a friend. That was last October.

At the Tenino swap meet last year a vendor had a nice shifter and mouse for 300.00, I think he sold it. Hope that helps.
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If it is wore out and needs rebuilding, then its worth about $150 with missing parts..........Roach.
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Wow. I bought one at a swap meet for $20 about 10 years ago just as a curiosity. It was missing the spring but was otherwise complete. I bought a project bike a couple of months ago and another one came with it but it needs some serious work. I kinda figure that a mousetrap is the item that's worth more. Those shifters don't really seem to be in big demand, I always thought they were kind of clunky.
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Old 06-09-2008, 02:50 PM   #5
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Ya, they are kinda big, but you have to remember that not many were made, and it was the first aftermarket ratchet shifter for H-D's Before Harley made there ratchet in 52! And try using one, push down with you foot, clutch disengages and it puts the jokey lid into gear, rise your foot and the clutch engages, to down shift you pull in a small lever on the handelbars and repete with your foot, Cool stuff from long ago............Roach.
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I have been looking for one...or information, photos..drawings.

Working on something similar for my 45 stroker project...

Three speed trannie, converted into 4 speed..

Got and info on these shifters?

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PS.. Eric, at Beauty of Speed, in France has some information about them.
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Ya, they are kinda big, but you have to remember that not many were made, and it was the first aftermarket ratchet shifter for H-D's Before Harley made there ratchet in 52! And try using one, push down with you foot, clutch disengages and it puts the jokey lid into gear, rise your foot and the clutch engages, to down shift you pull in a small lever on the handelbars and repete with your foot, Cool stuff from long ago............Roach.
Well then, maybe mine isn't complete, or else it's a different type. There's no connection for the clutch on mine, it's just a ratchet. I'll have to dig all that stuff out and give it a closer look. WLA21; there's not much to the basic mechanism on the one I have. Other than the stamped steel cover it looks pretty simple.
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Saw a B&H mousetrap at the LB swap 2 months ago, but some old codger barked at me that he just bought it...Harpoon has a complete setup and one that needs work/parts.
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I have everything grant, quit telling everyone. The moustraps are neet, but you may just want to run an eliminator when using the shifter unit. I do not know what type of spring would work the best for it.

Destralo, you are talking about the speed-e-shift.
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I have all ways know them as the B&H shifter, but I could be wrong about the name, And yes I'm a Destralo.....MC ........Roach.
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Old 06-11-2008, 03:27 AM   #11
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The Thoro company made the speedy shift which was clutch and shifter mechanism all in one motion, and it is a long ungainly thing but period cool. The B&H is a triangular rig that bolts to a stock foot clutch tower and has a small mousetrap that harley obviously copied. Thanks for the pricing info guys, it is appreciated. KP
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There WAS one on E-Bay some time ago now..I remember seeing the pics and the setup was not complete..

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/B-H-S...QQcmdZViewItem
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Some more on the Speed-e-shift..





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OK, I'm straightened out now. I remember that Easyriders article.
The Speed-E-Shift was a setup that shifted the transmission when you pushed in the foot clutch.
The B&H Footshift worked with a hand clutch lever to convert the jockey top to foot operation. Two completely different animals. Mine is the B&H shifter. They're pretty simple. Here's a copy of an old ad for one.


I see the B&H Shifters fairly often. I've never seen a Speed-E-Shift.
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cool ad..

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Crack!! My memorey was mushing two things together! Yes, the speedy shift is what I described above, However, I had one of the B&H shifters that is now hanging in my buddys garage, My old mentor Chris Ward, had a speedy shift on his 47 knuckle that was in the ten year annaversary issue of Easyriders, but I remember his had a cover over the ratchet/foot mech............Roach.
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The Thoro company made the speedy shift which was clutch and shifter mechanism all in one motion, and it is a long ungainly thing but period cool. The B&H is a triangular rig that bolts to a stock foot clutch tower and has a small mousetrap that harley obviously copied. Thanks for the pricing info guys, it is appreciated. KP

the thoro company did not make the speed-e-shift. they made their own ratchet that mounted to the forward foot control area with a rod going back to the jockey lid. Harley put a very,very similar ratchet assembly on TOP of the jockey lid and made the ratchet lid just like that from 52-77 and put all of these footshift companies out of business.
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Here are a few shots of the B&H shifter. You can see how the pawl will engage the notches to move the rod back and forth.

http://i183.photobucket.com/albums/x...tate10/001.jpg

http://i183.photobucket.com/albums/x...tate10/004.jpg

http://i183.photobucket.com/albums/x...tate10/002.jpg

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Old 07-05-2008, 04:48 PM   #20
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Nice article Danny. I don't remember seeing that one before, what issue was it in? I saw one of the Thoro shifters at a swap meet a few years back. It had a very smooth, easy action compared to the B&H shifter. I like to pick up curiosities like this but the guy wanted something like $500 for it so I passed.
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