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Old 09-05-2016, 06:56 AM   #241
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Great work, looking real good!
and I want your fron brake set up on my old girl.

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Old 09-07-2016, 10:33 PM   #242
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Decided to try another magneto setup, one I had on the shelf for another project.
It has an offset base and gear drive setup, and when I tried it, it looks really good...
It's called a Morris G5 unit, and has an automatic retard for kick starting that has a good reputation, so decided I wanted to try it on this bike...
The base and mag head...


And it looks great on my '62 FL....


More pix HERE
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Old 09-08-2016, 12:56 AM   #243
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OH yeah.....That looks great!


I want it!
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Old 09-08-2016, 09:21 AM   #244
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Yes I vote for the G5 also!!!
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Old 09-08-2016, 11:49 AM   #245
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My Joe hunt took my blood sweat and tears to get in mine, plus loads of grinding and rubbing down!

Looks fantastic. My mag has always been hit and miss, turns out I had a duff coil. Got a new one over from the states, she's kicking up first time hot and cold now. Can't wait to see this one finished! Even more so now autumn is fast approaching and my chances of riding becoming SLIM.
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Old 09-08-2016, 07:59 PM   #246
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...... My mag has always been hit and miss, turns out I had a duff coil......
Sorry to hear that, my DH has always been real faithful, wish I could remember what I did with it....
Stays warm over here year round, just gets a little cooler and a whole lot rainier in the "winter"...
We ride year round, but we just can't ride very far. This island is something like 50 miles long and 10 miles wide. But we still enjoy the heck outta riding here...
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Old 09-10-2016, 01:31 AM   #247
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I wanted to run that mag on my '59 local boy project...
Guess I need to save my pennies and try to find another one...
It went together nicely, they wanted tranny fluid in with the gears, but it
looked to me like a major leak down into the gear case, I'll put some
in anyway, but lubed the gears with the same fibrous type wheel brg
grease as I used on the clutch hub, it should be just fine...

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Old 09-10-2016, 01:40 AM   #248
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I like this setup much better.......
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Old 09-11-2016, 11:49 PM   #249
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Me too,
it's mechanically clean and well organized,
I like that...
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Old 09-13-2016, 12:09 PM   #250
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2Loose, here is a partial view from the other side of the breather as promised. It has a machined shoulder with a slot leading to where its tapped for the fitting.
Sorry it took so long!
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Old 09-14-2016, 03:16 PM   #251
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Thanks for that pic, looks like a good idea...

Am concerned about the master link in my new o-ring chain, it was way too tight
to suit me, so I drilled it out to a 0.005" loose fit, but now I'm concerned that's too loose...

So I bought a new master link and boy is it tight, I put it in a vice to see how hard it
goes together....



It took a ton of pressure to get it to go together, way more than I consider acceptable....



Now the side plate is jammed on there so tight I can't get it off....
I need to loosen it up a little, but still keep it an interference fit,
just not this tight, it's too much....



Even if I could get it together like this on the bike, I'd never get it off again !!

More Later....
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Old 09-16-2016, 02:37 PM   #252
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Decided to get another new master link and rework it for a better fit....

The end couple of inches of this rat tail file did the job nicely....


Worked it one hole at a time until I could just barely force the plate on the pin with my fingers,
a nice tight fit....


Did the second hole the same, it takes all my hand strength to put it together,
a nice, tight, snug fit....


Put it on the chain, it was a bit of a struggle, but I was able to put it
together without any tools, except a channel lock pliers to compress the O-rings....


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Old 09-16-2016, 06:37 PM   #253
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Tried fitting the original exhaust on just for grins....
The rear exhaust went on fairly well, there were a couple of problems....



This old pipe fit pretty well on the rear exhaust spigot....


But the kicker arm hits the pipe....


And the muffler is jammed up tight against the frame and rear footpeg....

I'm thinking of modifying it to fit and just use high temp black paint....


The front pipe is more of a problem....


The pipe hits the rear brake master cylinder...


And is wedged in tight against the front footpeg bar...


And has quite a ways to go yet to slide all the way onto the front exhaust spigot...


I'm gettin' there....
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Old 09-16-2016, 06:53 PM   #254
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Started measuring for the brake lines....

Used some mig wire and laid it out starting at the front brake MC....



Looped it around and down behind the left fork leg....


This last portion will be hose, not sure how much yet, or how much slack to leave in it
for the fork slider movement....
And will probably need some sort of bracket or clamp
on the fork leg at the top of the hose....


Did the same thing for the rear brake, starting at the MC....


Laid it out to follow the right side of the frame to the rear tranny mount cross member....


Across at the back of the tranny mount cross member....


Then up the left side frame rail to the rear brake....
Loop the brake line around from behind the brake to allow for rear tire adjustment....


That came out as 60" for the front brake line,
and 64" for the rear brake line.
Part of that front line will be a hose to the brake caliper, not sure how much to give there,
But I'll run solid line all the way back for the rear brake....

More Later,
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Old 09-18-2016, 01:38 PM   #255
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The bike was sitting on this work bench below ride height....
Decided to block it up to ride height above the bench surface....


Had to add a few blocks at the rear to get it up where I wanted it...


Same in front....


Ride height is 9" at the front footpegs....


My old frame was set up very similiar to this, and I rode it with those solid footpegs for 20 years with no problems. I'm aware of the problems they could cause if I hit something with them, as compared to folding footpegs, but I did lay the old bike down once while avoiding a car that turned left in front of me, and those solid footpegs kept the bike up off the pavement, minimal damage to the bike. I like that.

As long as I keep my wits about me when riding, this amount of clearance should be just fine with a solid front footpeg bar....


9" at the rear footpegs also, just need to keep away from curbs and other such solid objects when riding and cornering hard....


Tucked the front footpeg bar in close and reset the front exhaust...


I will need to add an extension to the front pipe off of the exhaust spigot, but I think I can get it to fit pretty nicely without too much modification....


7" clearance at the pipe at this point....


It'll take some cutting and fitting, but I think I can get both mufflers to look good and fit the way I want....
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Old 09-18-2016, 04:00 PM   #256
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Ill bring you a front squish pipe to cut up.
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Old 09-23-2016, 12:32 PM   #257
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On the advice of others who know more about this than I do, I cleaned the grease off of these gears, and put ATF in the gear case "bowl" of this Morris magneto...


Have a used "oem" generator gear on the way to me, let's see if it is a better fit than this sloppy "new" aftermarket one....


I had a new clutch hub on the shelf for another project, decided to pull this one off and install the new one to see if I get better clearance from the drive chain and the rim of the clutch assembly...


Cut and fit the old exhaust to the new frame/motor. Repair as needed. I'd like to get it to fit as nicely as it did on the old frame, I like this shorty setup, and have not yet found anything available today that looks or fits like these old ones did on the original frame...


Ordered new brake lines for both the front disk brake and the rear drum brake...

In addition to the above....
The Job List:
-Find, clean up and install the old Linkert and a new fuel line.
-Install the old speedo, new cable needed?
-Deal with the case breather, route it where?
-7 oz ATF in each front fork.
(running 2 oem springs in each leg with an adjustable preload, it works!)
-mount hi/lo light switch and mag kill switch on handlebars.
-Install new wiring.
-Repair front fender mounts and install.
-Chain guard? Didn't run one before, but maybe now...

Anything else ??
Yeah, need time, lots of other things demanding my attention, sometimes quite difficult to get back to this, my favorite project...
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Old 10-19-2016, 04:47 PM   #258
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Been traveling, one of my boys had his 50th birthday, couldn't miss that !!
But I had to travel about 6,000 miles to go there, so took my time and enjoyed the trip....

But, home again and back at it, and continuing work on the brakes, exhaust and wiring.
Pulled the old 6 volt voltage regulator off of the front of the rear fender, as the new 12 volt generator has a built in voltage regulator...


And a new hydraulic actuated rear brake light switch installed there.


Picked up a 3/16"x 40" steel brake line and fit it to the master cylinder
for the rear brake....


Ran it back along the top of the frame rail...


And to the brake light switch...


Measurements for the other side to the brake cylinder
was 34", picked up a 30" line but it was too short,
as expected, still thinking about how I want to do that side...

More later...
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Old 10-19-2016, 10:08 PM   #259
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I'm concerned with vibration being a factor on that single bolt mount
on this brake switch. Am thinking on how to reinforce it, quick and easy
but solid and dependable...

Hmmmm...
This calls for a good single malt and lots of ice....
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Old 10-19-2016, 11:16 PM   #260
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Mine is mounted off the front left control mount with that same mount tab. Dont forget you have metal lines holding it up to. I dont even have that.
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