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Old 04-17-2017, 12:55 PM   #361
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Heck of a good idea, I have 4 unused o-rings in a plastic bag, but think they are the old style stuff, will look around for the viton....
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Old 04-19-2017, 06:41 PM   #362
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Look what I found....
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Old 04-20-2017, 12:32 AM   #363
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Old 04-20-2017, 05:44 AM   #364
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Clamp on, clamp off, the clamper...
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Old 04-20-2017, 11:54 AM   #365
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It's a bit of a "wrestling match" to get that intake, the two o-rings, and the two clamps in there, but with a couple of cold ones, I prevailed !!!

Check List:
-Install single fire ignition wires
-Find and install fuel petcock and fuel line
-Find and install throttle cable
-Adjust primary belt, and final drive chain
-Adjust mousetrap, clutch linkage and clutch pack
-Bleed front and rear hyd. brake systems
-Install air cleaner
-Check final timing for magneto
-Find and keep handy timing port plug
-Find and install crankcase drain plug
-Keep wife happy and grandkids out of trouble

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Old 04-24-2017, 10:37 PM   #366
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Finally had a few minutes today to work on this....

I went ahead and sealed off the screw, nut, and mount
on the carb fuel float with the shallac product above I got at ACE hardware,
guess I'll find out if there is a problem with it, but I seriously doubt that....
I was advised to use 'only' the "Indian Head" brand shallac, but....

Next was timing the mag, as I had to pull the mag to loosen the
head bolts and get the intake tee to fit, now that it is all snugged down,
I rolled the front piston into compression mode and brought the flywheel
up to the "three dots"......
(More info here if you want, scroll down....)


Got it close, and hooked up my little mag style timing light....


Rotated the mag between the "not fired yet" light....


And the "fire" light, got it right on the money and tightened it down....


Mounted the carb....


And started looking at what I need to hook up the fuel...


This was taped up from painting, and when I pulled off the tape, I found this...
I can clean up the rust, no problem there,
but I do not know this thread, it is a fine thread,
OD on the threads measures 0.868"


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Old 04-25-2017, 02:12 PM   #367
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Default Re: '62 Chop, 4th Rebuild in 42 years.....

I've just learned that this is a 22 mm fuel outlet, now to find a fuel petcock to fit it....
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Old 04-25-2017, 03:33 PM   #368
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A '70s-early '80s BMW faucet would work, if you don't mind the looks. They're not hideous but not very chopper.
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Old 04-25-2017, 04:55 PM   #369
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Jesus that's a serious bit of thread/hole!

Good job on the mag. I know my mag off by heart can time her by eye! I slightly retarded mine this time around, runs smoother!
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Old 04-25-2017, 06:59 PM   #370
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22mm was used on the late 70's to pretty recent bikes iirc

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Old 04-25-2017, 10:07 PM   #371
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Yeah, I googled it and found out a bunch.
Will get one with a reserve, don't like runnin' outta gas out on the road....
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Old 04-26-2017, 11:36 PM   #372
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Short on time, but have a few photos, so let's see if I can pull this off....



That tube in the screen allows a reserve function inside the tank at that level....
Probably about a quart, probably good for 10 miles if I milk it,
(been there, done that....)


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Old 04-27-2017, 12:15 PM   #373
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That stuff you posted is a wood sealer, Indian Head shellac is a gasket sealer/maker.

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Finally had a few minutes today to work on this....

I went ahead and sealed off the screw, nut, and mount
on the carb fuel float with the shallac product above I got at ACE hardware,
guess I'll find out if there is a problem with it, but I seriously doubt that....
I was advised to use 'only' the "Indian Head" brand shallac, but....

Next was timing the mag, as I had to pull the mag to loosen the
head bolts and get the intake tee to fit, now that it is all snugged down,
I rolled the front piston into compression mode and brought the flywheel
up to the "three dots"......
(More info here if you want, scroll down....)


Got it close, and hooked up my little mag style timing light....


Rotated the mag between the "not fired yet" light....


And the "fire" light, got it right on the money and tightened it down....


Mounted the carb....


And started looking at what I need to hook up the fuel...


This was taped up from painting, and when I pulled off the tape, I found this...
I can clean up the rust, no problem there,
but I do not know this thread, it is a fine thread,
OD on the threads measures 0.868"


More Later
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Old 04-27-2017, 12:28 PM   #374
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Wood sealer be ok
It's a linkert.


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Old 04-27-2017, 12:31 PM   #375
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Had some time this am, so got these posted:

The single fire Morris ignition leads were cut to fit
and terminals were clamped on the ends...



This is a pretty cool system, there are huge capacity diodes in that large piece
in the middle of the wires that direct the spark to one or the other spark plug,
instead of firing both spark plugs as the normal HD system does.
It can do this because the magneto system reverses polarity of the spark
each time it fires, and sends fire to both spark plugs, giving wasted spark to
the cylinder that is in exhaust stroke mode....

These diodes are set up to function opposite each other, so when there is a
positive polarity originating from the magneto, it goes to only one spark plug,
and as the next spark is a negative polarity, it goes to the other spark plug.
That way only one spark plug is fired, on the compression stroke, with
a hotter spark, and no wasted spark on the cylinder with the exhaust stroke.

One side of the magneto output is grounded, and the other side
is connected to the pair of diodes...



I tied the diode unit under the fuel tank....



Most folks wouldn't even notice it up there....



If I have the wires on the wrong cylinders, I'll just swap 'em....



It's a clean looking setup....



Swapped out the mag cap for a keyed unit, so I can lock out the magneto if I need to...

I'm jones'n for my old setup with flat bars....
Pulled the bars offa the shelf, and
found a local set of used 9" risers. gonna use 'em...

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That stuff you posted is a wood sealer, Indian Head shellac is a gasket sealer/maker.
Yeah, I'm a little concerned about that, so gonna put some of this shellac on a couple of screws and nuts and after they're dry, put 'em in a jar of gas and let 'em soak for awhile, check 'em once in awhile to see how they hold up...

The shellac I put on the float screw/nut on the mount for my Linkert dried up very nicely, looked good to go, and I can also pull the bowl after awhile and check it, that's pretty easy to do....

Interesting reading from Wikipedia:
Shellac is a resin secreted by the female lac bug, on trees in the forests of India and Thailand. It is processed and sold as dry flakes (pictured) and dissolved in ethanol to make liquid shellac, which is used as a brush-on colorant, food glaze and wood finish. Shellac functions as a tough natural primer, sanding sealant, tannin-blocker, odour-blocker, stain, and high-gloss varnish. Shellac was once used in electrical applications as it possesses good insulation qualities and it seals out moisture. Phonograph and 78 rpm gramophone records were made of it until they were replaced by vinyl long-playing records from the 1950s onwards.
From the time it replaced oil and wax finishes in the 19th century, shellac was one of the dominant wood finishes in the western world until it was largely replaced by nitrocellulose lacquer in the 1920s and 1930s.

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That tube in the screen allows a reserve function inside the tank at that level....
Probably about a quart, probably good for 10 miles if I milk it,
(been there, done that....)
Willy
Beware of the above petcocks if your state has ethanol gas. The alcohol swells the rubber seal, then the seal rips when you turn the tap. The failed seal causes fuel to feed from both tubes and you will find no reserve of fuel when the carb runs dry. Been there, done that. If you don't want to be stranded, Pingle is the only petcock I've found whose seals stand up to ethanol fuel.
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...Shellac is a very good US underground rock band; and Albini is one of the best record engineering.
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Old 04-28-2017, 02:03 AM   #379
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coming along nicely!

that single fire unit is a neat thing, thanks for taking the time
to explain how it works.
i guess on my weak little 45 it doesn't really matter, but i will
keep this in mind for when i ever get my hands on an overhead big twin...
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Old 04-28-2017, 11:54 AM   #380
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When I get back to my 59 FL 93 ci project, I have a pair of STD pan style heads to use, that have dual spark plugs, and I have another of these new style Morris mags to use on that motor. Morris convinced me I could run single fire on those dual plug heads with two sets of these diode imbedded ignition wires, firing both plugs only on the cylinder that needs it. Am looking forward to seeing just how well that works, but gotta get this old gal back on the road first....
Hope I live long enough to see all my projects completed, and healthy enough to ride and enjoy 'em....
Aloha,
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Links to a couple of old threads on my '59 93" unfinished project....
My JJ 93" thread
My WM 93" thread

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